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Ramsos
T610
Joined: Nov 03, 2003
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From: Oakland California, USA
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Posted: 2003-11-09 08:56
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Well I finally got my T616 and I love everything about it, its great, the only thing thats bothering me right now is that I barely get a signal in my house. I'm hoping my signal strength is due to the bad weather were having here, currently i'm only getting up to 16 percent signal strength(according to phone agent). Anyway when I first got the phone it had around 700kb available, but after a master reset I had an amazing 2153kb available! That was great, so now I have 15 custom ringtones on the phone, 3 themes, 4 games, a huge animated gif screensaver, 9 permanent phonebook pics, 15 uploaded pics and almost 300 kb available! Excellent, I love this phone especially picture caller ID and Midi ringtones. As you all know the camera is mediocre at best, but I have a 4 megapixel digital cam so the communicam is just for fun. Bluetooth works perfect and extremely easy with my Powerbook and OSX (Phone Agent, Salling Clicker and Bluetooth conrol panel). The midi dj program is pretty cool too. And I love the golf game. I also have Qbert, Caveman,and Dopewars. This phone is great I just hope my signal gets better, I always had a decent signal at home with my Motorola V60i non-gsm phone. Wish me luck.
jamba
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From: Baguio City, Philippines
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Posted: 2003-11-09 09:27
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These are my findings as far as memory management of Pictures in the phone are concerned.

First, the phone converts the jpeg image to a raw format for purposes of faster loading. This is why your regular 17-20Kb picture becomes 40-50kb on the phone.

In order to reduce the size on the phone, edit the picture in the phone. Yes, it is true that if you edit on the phone, you will get less quality. I found that the "effect" utility in the phone that has the least quality degradation to the picture is the "brightness."

Here's the trick. Before you upload apicture to the phone, edit it's brightness to be only at 60% (in Photoshop). This means that you will make the original picture darker by 40%. I think that's clear enough. Upload the picture to your phone. Then edit the picture in your phone by using the "brightness" effect. The brightness effect will increase the picture's brightness to about an additional 40%. So your end result is a picture that looks about the same as the original. Memory change is from 50Kb down to 36Kb.

Cheers !!!

[ This Message was edited by: jamba on 2003-11-09 08:30 ]
adept1
T610
Joined: Oct 22, 2002
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From: Singapore
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Posted: 2003-11-09 12:15
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GSM coverage still sucks in the United States. You just gotta hope it improves over time. I remember when I lived in California and switched from a TDMA phone to a GSM phone, signal was weak and lots of dead spots...
JNice
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Joined: Nov 08, 2003
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From: J Nice
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Posted: 2003-11-09 12:45
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Hi, basically u can achieve all this, u will have2b crafty tho. What i did was2cut the length of my ringtones down so they last as long as it takes4my voicemail service2cut in, i am making 8k midis which were originaly around 60k! The picture thing bugs me but im playing with techniques at present.

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Ramsos
T610
Joined: Nov 03, 2003
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From: Oakland California, USA
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Posted: 2003-11-10 06:00
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I am so dissapointed with my signal strength, if nothing can be done about this I will have to go back to TDMA because I use my cell phone as my main phone and I can barely use it at home. Often I have no signal and I have not had more than 2 bars of signal strength at home. I am an At&t wireless user and their GSM network is getting new software and they could not help me today, hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to get some help. I love my T616 because of the features but it has to be a phone first, without that its just an expensive toy.
Dj Boyi
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Joined: Oct 05, 2002
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From: Liberty City
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Posted: 2003-11-10 07:09
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I've been just doing a slight edit with the t610 editor by choosing colour picker and then just edit over the same space so you can save it been doing this a few weeks now and it knocks off about a third of the size
The difference is the pic loses some brightness but for picture phonebook i think this is ok cus its not like something you look at a lot,is it?

Hope this helps you out
If nobody wants it.. put it on eBay.
Ramsos
T610
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From: Oakland California, USA
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Posted: 2003-11-10 07:21
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Thanks but the only help I really need now will have to come from my wireless provider, because I am just barely able to use this GSM phone. I really hope I can keep it, sorry to get off the subject but I'm just so dissapointed, this is unacceptable!

Well I talked to AT&T today and unfortunately I will be going back to digital, so goodbye T616. I only had it for 2 days and now its going back.

[ This Message was edited by: Ramsos on 2003-11-10 18:14 ]
dantec
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Posted: 2003-11-11 13:26
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Quote:

On 2003-11-10 06:00:42, Ramsos wrote:
I am so dissapointed with my signal strength, if nothing can be done about this I will have to go back to TDMA because I use my cell phone as my main phone and I can barely use it at home. Often I have no signal and I have not had more than 2 bars of signal strength at home. I am an At&t wireless user and their GSM network is getting new software and they could not help me today, hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to get some help. I love my T616 because of the features but it has to be a phone first, without that its just an expensive toy.



Yeah I noticed this with my aunt's 3650, in California. I don't think it is really the phone's fault, although the t610 I think is good at holding on t o 1 bar of signal, it seems to get it frequently in the states. I think the problem relies more on the service.
Ramsos
T610
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From: Oakland California, USA
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Posted: 2003-11-11 17:15
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I agree that its the providers fault, but I still had to go back to digital.
ericzutter
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Posted: 2004-03-30 10:53
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You said in the previous posts that Sony T610 is creating a second version of the picture when transferring a picture from PC to T610. T610 will always use the second version of the picture, which means that the first version (original transferred from PC) is useless space.

Exist there a way to delete the first version of the picture on T610 and that T610 can still use the second version of the picture?

I am using a T630. When I take a picture with the camera with resolution 120x160 the picture only takes between 8-11K. When I transfer a picture from PC to T630 then it takes 50k. I suppose that the camera only stores one version of the picture and that he is doing a better compression then the pictures transferred from PC to T630.

Instead of transferring my pictures from PC to T630, I put the picture on my PC screen and take a picture from my PC screen with the T630 camera. In that way the picture will only take 8-11k instead of 50k.

Exist there PC software that uses exactly the same compression format as used in T610/T630? The goal would be to convert the picture in the same format used by T610/T630 so that the T610/T630 doesn't need to create a second version.
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