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pachy
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Posted: 2003-10-08 05:13
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Its easy to sell Garbge phones to Trashy people,
& thats Indisputable

@Hurny,By this i mean most of Nokia's phones are cheap & simple to be sold to people who just want an idiot proof phone, but some of the top end phones are also very usable, if you posted in a Nokia forum, i'm sure you would get support for your view on Nokia's.
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hurny
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Posted: 2003-10-08 07:17
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I wouldnt say most, and I wouldnt say trash, because many Nokia phones of the same level as SE, do more or better that SE phones.

Eg- my 3650 aint trash. The phone is a phenomenon.
orange
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Posted: 2003-10-08 07:47
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On 2003-10-08 05:13:17, pachy wrote:
Its easy to sell Garbge phones to Trashy people,
& thats Indisputable

@Hurny,By this i mean most of Nokia's phones are cheap & simple to be sold to people who just want an idiot proof phone, but some of the top end phones are also very usable, if you posted in a Nokia forum, i'm sure you would get support for your view on Nokia's.



From the manufacturer point of view it's very smart to do phones also for these "Trashy people", as you call them, as most of the people seem to be those. It would be a stupid move from the manufacturer not to do so. At the moment #1 manufacturer is doing it in the smart way and the others...hmm not so smart way. Phone manufacturers are not charity organisations, but they are doing business (money).
DragAzn
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Posted: 2003-10-08 10:14
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Nokia has been out longer then se has and they have a reputation while se is only building their reputation give some time. Customers at my store are changing their views on se.

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exosyphen
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Posted: 2003-10-08 10:34
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Downloadable games and software make phones attractive today. Everyone can write in java for nokia, but not on the mophun for the ericsson.

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bart
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Posted: 2003-10-08 11:39
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the results of Q3 won't be that great, and idd no profit yet. Q4 and Q1 will be killers, SE will take big jums forward. i'm sure SE will regain the 4th place in the global top in Q4 and maby 3th place in Q1. siemens will rise abit, motorola will stay about the same, samsung will drop and nokia will lose bigtime. nec will also see his activity in europe rise as will toshiba. LG will keep losing more. alcatel i don't know.
hurny
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Posted: 2003-10-08 11:51
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Wow- a soothsayer, tarot reader and a future teller all in one!

They're pretty strange assumtions to make. What are you basing that on? The upcoming phones- whether you like them or not?
orange
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Posted: 2003-10-08 12:06
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On 2003-10-08 11:51:06, hurny wrote:
Wow- a soothsayer, tarot reader and a future teller all in one!

They're pretty strange assumtions to make. What are you basing that on? The upcoming phones- whether you like them or not?



As a fanatic SE fan, he is basing these assumption for hope...
prodjsxb
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Posted: 2003-10-08 22:17
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well as long as SE phones dont randomly explode in the owners pocket or whatever, then they will be alright.

True brokia has a large market share, but seeing how long they have been around??? in just a short time, SE has taken a large chunk of that pie, even seimens has entered more strongly this year...

Oh well, we shall have to wait and see what happens, but SE did sign a deal with T-Mobile and Microcell to push their phones out into the public eye...
Merkur
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Posted: 2003-10-08 23:35
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What I have heard about problems @ SE is problems receiving components for their products.
I have also heard that the T230 is delayed, possibly untill Q1 04. If that's true, they willl not have a cheap phone in the christmas rush, except the Z200.
Draak
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Posted: 2003-10-14 18:11
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SE have realy big troubles if i hear so.

another reason is that Sony and Ericsson will saperate if SE bad 3 qarter result have.

And yes the stuff implentaions verry shit at all.
Why give Sony cam stuf to SE,damn Sony.

I think SE wil disepear in this or next year.
Krubach
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Posted: 2003-10-15 16:57
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On 2003-10-14 18:11:17, Draak wrote:
SE have realy big troubles if i hear so.

another reason is that Sony and Ericsson will saperate if SE bad 3 qarter result have.

And yes the stuff implentaions verry shit at all.
Why give Sony cam stuf to SE,damn Sony.

I think SE wil disepear in this or next year.



We don't have to worry about this anymore do we?
We now have Q3 results and SE is back in black numbers. Phone sales increased dramatically.
So that's bye bye for this thread. no more reasons for it to exist. [addsig]
wrath000
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Posted: 2003-10-15 17:01
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I suppose that's why you revived this thread from oblivion....
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