Esato

Forum > General discussions > General > Use the Search?!?!?!?!

123  Next
Author Use the Search?!?!?!?!
DragonFly
P910
Joined: Aug 27, 2003
Posts: 161
From: South Africa
PM, WWW
Posted: 2003-09-26 13:53
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post


Come on guys, forums are here to help us, where we can ask questions, and to those of you who go around from topic to topic trying to be intelligent by repeating the same phrase, "Use the Search"..

Sure we will use the search, but what if it doesnt help?
we all started here not knowing anything, and because someone joins and asks a question, its very unfair to jump down their throats.
think about it, you are a baby, and the minute you ask someone a question, they say "USE THE SEARCH"... i dont think you will feel appreciated or very welcome- LOL
no seriously, we are all here to learn and to help and to teach.

give your say...

do you agree or disagree?

[ This Message was edited by: DragonFly on 2003-10-01 11:32 ]
tranquil
W902 Black
Joined: Dec 15, 2001
Posts: > 500
From: Oslo, Norway
PM
Posted: 2003-09-26 13:57
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Couldn't agree moore!

The ultimate ringtone wav mp3
masseur
P910
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Sydney, London
PM
Posted: 2003-09-26 14:00
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
damn... got moved while I was typing!...

although this has been discussed a few times lately I will add my 2 cents. I rarely, if ever, say "use the search" personally. In preference in cases when I think the search has not been used I do a search and show the results by leaving the full url to the search available to see, making it clear how I found the results, whereas for other urls I generally hide them with my now famous "here" or "this thread" type links.

I do think alot of people are lazy considering how little effort I use to find them results but I also think the search system itself can be improved, most notably by removing the omission of key words that I enter!

what does irk me is when someone comes into a thread that has already been answered and the only contribution they have is a comment to "use the search" with that user-the-search smilie (which is not really aptly named as such!).
wrath000
X1 Black
Joined: May 14, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Norway
PM
Posted: 2003-09-26 14:03
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
search: use the search

This gotta be the most popular phrase on Esato. Way up there with "How do I turn off clock screensaver"

[EDIT]
@masseur:
About the people posting "use the search" in already answered threads... I have to agree, it's the most irritating thing I know. It's like they can't be bothered to read the thread and just plaster the "use the search" down.

I guess some people use it as a cheep way to keep the post count up without actually putting in any effort to help...
_________________
If I had all the answers, I wouldn't have any questions.
Answers to the most common questions on Esato forums

[ This Message was edited by: wrath000 on 2003-09-26 13:05 ]
masseur
P910
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Sydney, London
PM
Posted: 2003-09-26 14:04
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
...and just now... "can I remove the logo on my T610"!

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=38954&forum=2

(another one for your q&a thread wrath000!)

_________________
...Unless I'm very much mistaken

[ This Message was edited by: masseur on 2003-09-26 13:05 ]
wrath000
X1 Black
Joined: May 14, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Norway
PM
Posted: 2003-09-26 14:07
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Yeah, i have to update it. I havn't done it for a while. (just the firmware version link...).
If I had all the answers, I wouldn't have any questions.
Answers to the most common questions on Esato forums
__spc__
T68 gold
Joined: Apr 04, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: To: Cc: Bcc: Subject: Message:
PM
Posted: 2003-09-26 14:09
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Most regular users on Esato agree that the search function is pretty poor. However, two points:

1. Quite often, *I* use the search function to answer someone's query (simply so, as I recall that threads containing the answers exist, but I can't quite remember where they are). I don't have too much trouble locating the answers, so neither should the peopl whom I'm trying to help;

2. Blatant posting on subjects for which even a cursory glance of the other threads would reveal a thread already exists is all to frequent, particularly by new users, but is in my opinion inexcusable - the attitude here is one of "I can't be bothered to read other threads, but I need help, so read my thread".

This message was NOT posted from my P800 that I no longer have
wrath000
X1 Black
Joined: May 14, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Norway
PM
Posted: 2003-09-26 14:12
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
For an example of "can't be bothered to search" click here
_________________
If I had all the answers, I wouldn't have any questions.
Answers to the most common questions on Esato forums

[ This Message was edited by: wrath000 on 2003-09-26 13:15 ]
DragonFly
P910
Joined: Aug 27, 2003
Posts: 161
From: South Africa
PM, WWW
Posted: 2003-09-26 14:13
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
i fully agree with all your postings....

sometimes you can just see when people dont even bother to use the search...
then i agree with the use the search phrase...
--=[ Proudly P900 ]=--
- You can lead a fool to wisdom, But you cannot make him think
------------------------------------------------------------------
http://thugs.freak.co.za <- Check it Out! you wont regret it!
__spc__
T68 gold
Joined: Apr 04, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: To: Cc: Bcc: Subject: Message:
PM
Posted: 2003-09-26 14:18
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Quote:

On 2003-09-26 14:12:47, wrath000 wrote:
For an example of "can't be bothered to search" click here
_________________
If I had all the answers, I wouldn't have any questions.
Answers to the most common questions on Esato forums

[ This Message was edited by: wrath000 on 2003-09-26 13:15 ]



1. I hope I don't get caught out being as contradictory as Yoeppie!

2. Couldn't resist.
This message was NOT posted from my P800 that I no longer have
Yoeppie
P800 no flip
Joined: Mar 28, 2003
Posts: 257
From: Anywhere where ur not
PM
Posted: 2003-09-26 14:19
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Lolol

thats not cool with my name there on top

http://www.esato.com/board/search.php?q=can%27t+be+bothered+to+search&forum=all&uname=&sortby=&dotitle=&bypost=

I answered his quistion atleast

And its not even my thread

hahahhaa

[ This Message was edited by: Yoeppie on 2003-09-26 13:21 ]
wrath000
X1 Black
Joined: May 14, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Norway
PM
Posted: 2003-09-26 14:19
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
I actually remember someone post once that he knows it has been asked many times before, but he couldn't be bothered to search... That sort of behaivior can be extremely irritating.
If I had all the answers, I wouldn't have any questions.
Answers to the most common questions on Esato forums
__spc__
T68 gold
Joined: Apr 04, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: To: Cc: Bcc: Subject: Message:
PM
Posted: 2003-09-26 14:21
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Quote:

On 2003-09-26 14:19:09, Yoeppie wrote:
Lolol

thats not cool with my name there on top

http://www.esato.com/board/search.php?q=can%27t+be+bothered+to+search&forum=all&uname=&sortby=&dotitle=&bypost=

I answered his quistion atleast

hahahhaa



Apologies Yoeppie - I'm sure I could have found far worse (you were honest about it) examples.... only I COULDN'T BE BOTHERED TO SEARCH!!!!
This message was NOT posted from my P800 that I no longer have
Vlammetje
C702 Cyan
Joined: Mar 01, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Den Haag
PM, WWW
Posted: 2003-09-26 14:22
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
I partially agree.

Certain threads clearly show that the poster has not bothered looking for the answer him- or herself. In that case i would definitely include the famous words in my reply.... altho I try to reply to the question as well.
There is nothing wrong tho with pointing out to such a poster in a polite manner that the board does have a search facility.


In other cases... certain things have been put onn this forum for 1000 times... when you hit search, you will get all of them but may still not find your answer coz it's just too clogged.

And finally.... using the search would be even better if the search would no longer exclude key words from the search ( ) and if the forum would be cleaned up a bit (moderators, I am begging you!)

Finally: for the search smilie: it's been added on my request, because at the time there were ppl everywhere being exteremly rude about how 'stoopid bastid idiot wankers' and other nice descriptions (you all get the idea) were thrown at every poster with a not very original question.

I kinda hoped the smilie would at least make ppl a bit less rude to ano another. I am still not sure it did actually.

So all :

Marga
Yoeppie
P800 no flip
Joined: Mar 28, 2003
Posts: 257
From: Anywhere where ur not
PM
Posted: 2003-09-26 14:33
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Looks like i have some editing 2 do on that post its out of context

Access the forum with a mobile phone via esato.mobi