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T230 handsfree speakerfunction? |
phonepro
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on http://www.sonyericsson.com/t230/ under entertainment the following text is found
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The T230 comes with a second speaker and supports 32 simultaneous notes, which gives it an excellent polyphonic sound performance. Polyphonic sound is used for ringtones as well as in the games. Make the phone sound just like you want it - it is even possible to record your own voice and use it as a ring signal.
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does this mean the T230 has speakerphone function? i have never as far as i can remember seen a mobilephone with that capability without offering speakerphone function as well
i emailed  support in sweden and asked and as expected they didnt know anything, and lacked the capability to find someone who did.. 
on the Z600 pages theres no info on handsfree mode but that model has it, could this mean that the T230 also has it? | |
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wrath000
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Well, if there was a speakerphone function, they would have probably mentioned it.
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phonepro
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but they DONT mention it on the Z600, as i mentioned...  |
wrath000
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Ok then, your guess is as good as mine, but I am more inclined to believe the info from the offical pages rather then reviews/info from unofficial sources.
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phonepro
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what is it that you dont belive? that Z600 has handsfree speaker?
they probably dont mention it så that more people will buy there desktop speakerthingy
but go mulder!! trust no one, deny everything and belive nothing!!! |
wrath000
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I was referring to T230 not Z600, those are two different class phones
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Besides, why guess and hope, when you can wait and see?
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phonepro
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but i havent read anywhere official or unofficial that T230 has handsfree speaker, im just hoping, wondering and speculating
and what is it that you dont belive? that Z600 doesnt have speakerphone because it isnt mentioned on the pages or that T230 doesnt have speakerphone because of the same reason?
neither of those models have handsfree speaker mentioned in there official pages, but i know for a fact that one of them has(Z600)
and classes, the alcatel 311 and siemens A55/2 has handsfree speaker and they are in the lowest of classes, well below the T230, so that argument is more like saying that if you buy a phone you wont get as much functions as if you buy another brand, and that isnt a good argument, if your goal isnt to make look like a cheap brand that is trying to cheat its customers out of basic functions, and has no intention to change and uppgrade their models basic functions
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well, if thats your opinion i guess you really hate all speculations on this forum that excists from the day a model is first seen until the day its out on the market?
the reason im wondering is that im thinking of buying a new phone, and handsfree speaker is a feature i require, and if the T230 doesnt have it i will probably buy a siemens, but if it infact does, i could wait until the T230 is out for sale and buy that phone instead
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judge
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Sadly, with the advent of Z200, SE is joining Nokia in failing to provide advanced or even average functions for their phones. They have lost the edge that Ericsson used to give to all their products...
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wrath000
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I don't quite get what you are arguing about, the fact that I said "your guess is as good as mine"; or the fact that I choose not to repeat information untill I know for certain that it's correct?
I know that Eldar's review of Z600 mentions the speakerphone
I also know that it's not mentioned on pages.
I don't, and will not make any claims until this is confirmed one way or another.
pages don't mention a speakerphone on T230
There is no mention of speakerphone on T230 elsewhere, so I assume there is none, until proved otherwise.
You are entitled to your own opinion just as much as I am entitled to mine. I suppose I am very sceptical to all the roumors that go around these forums.
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If presence of a speaker phone is very important to you, it's just another reason to try to find out from . I have seen a lot of rumours and not many of them are very correct especially when it comes to details.
As a matter of fact, a lot of these rumours start by some person making a guess, then others reading it and taking it for a fact, and then repeating it...
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judge
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I'm going with wrath on this one. Anything besides official releases is pure speculation. Plus, no matter how reliable Eldar's information are, there are some serious inconsistencies between his reviews and the specifications released so far by SE.
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phonepro
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im arguing because i dont understand why you are posting in this tread at all?? if you dont know anything, fine, thats it, but why are you posting when you infact dont have a clue about the subject more then whats on the official pages? i can read those myself
im not interrested in assumptions from a sceptical person, assumption is the mother of all f**kups, as quoted from under siege 2, and the fact that you assume things arent there until youre proved otherwise, and that your opinion is that i should wait and see, indicates that you shouldnt be posting in a speculating tread at all, more that you should be working in a customer support and only state the facts as they are given to you in black and white from your employer
i have asked and as usual they dont know anything, if they had all the answers we wouldnt need esato at all, would we?
the reason i started this tread wasnt because i had a dream last night, its because at least 2 different facts indicate that there could be a handsfree speker in the T230 and im wondering if anybody else knows anything for a fact, or has heard anything
why guess and hope, when i could be waiting and seeing? because guessing and hoping is what makes life worth living in my opinion |
judge
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You are undermining your own point of view: first you quote from under siege, then you change your mind and find guessing to be the spice of life. Just curious: which is it?
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wrath000
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1. This thread is in the General forum, not the rumours forum.
2. If you have already made up your mind, why ask?
3. If my opinion is not interesting to you, doesn't neccesserily mean that it's not interesting to anybody else.
4. There has to be a voice of reason among all these speculations.
5. Anybody gan post wild guesswork, it's a bit more difficult to filter out the facts and post reliable information, or at least inform when the information is unreliable.
6. You don't own the thread just because you started it, so you can not decide who posts here and who doesn't
Assuming that T230 doesn't have a speaker phone becuase there is no mention of it make sense, since manufacturers tend to advertise functions instead of keeping them secret.
On the other hand, assuming that it does have the speakerphone simply because there is a secondary speaker (which according to is used for playing sounds/ringtones) doesn't make nearly as much sense.
If I followed your logic then, there could have been a speaker phone in the T610 as well. The speaker on T610 can play voice recordings loud without problems. The fact is there is no speakerphone on T610 even though there could have been one. Reasons? Perhaps microphone isn't good enough, perhaps the DSP (digital sound processing) chip is not good enough; it's not just the speaker that's responsible for the speakerphone function.
This is a discussion forum, so maybe you should get used to people having different opinions from yours.
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If dreaming about phone fuctions makes your life worth living then - congradulations! I guess you have indeed found the meaning of life.
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phonepro
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@judge
in this case im first of all hoping and therefore not interested in assumptions that point otherwise..
also i belive there is a small difference between guessing and assuming, but point well taken, i should have left that last remark out, but it just sounded so good
i am guessing, not assuming that there could be a handsfree speaker present, and i hope someone else knows or has his/hers own guesses or maybe assumptions if they are well backed up, and they havent been up until this point
@wrath
1. im not trying to start a rumour, and im not talking about one, im trying to find out a fact, if there is a speakerphone or not in the T230, but maybe this tread should have been placed elsewhere, sorry, its the first time im starting a tread
2. i have not made up my mind
3. up until your last post your opinion was as far as i know, only based on official pages information
4. yes, and with your last post youre opinion is finally starting to make sense
5. yes, but up until now you didnt seem to have any information other than that one from pages
6. i havent said you have no right posting in here, i just didnt understand why you did it
im not assuming that T230 have a speaker phone simply becuase there is no mention of it
im not assuming that it can have speakerphone only because there is a secondary speaker
logic? logic tells me that there could have been a speakerphone in the T610 but there istn, maybe for the same reasons that dont let their users choose a sms tone freely on many of their latest phones, simply beacuse they dont want to, or maybe beacuse they want people to buy their desktop speakerstand?
my logic tells me that since there is no mention from about the speakerphone in Z600, but there is one, and i belive its there, maybe there could be one in T230 also? is that ilogical?
after reading your last post below #6 you now make much more sense, why didnt you write all that in your first post?
ok, so your smart and can make well thoughtout assumptions, but i didnt know that until just now, and you shouldnt expect that everybody else knows that and therefore accepts your assumptions without knowing what they are based on, which i do now, and btw, it makes much more sense now, thank you
however, i dont buy your assumption even based on those facts, simply becuase all manufactures besides is capable of having speakerphone in their products, so it cant be that hard can it?? if it is that hard for maybe they should stop making mobile phones, and throw in the towel?
and if the T610 is capable of playing recorded sounds loud enough, that only proves my point even more, that the only reason they dont have spekerphonefunction is simply beacuse they up until now simply didnt want to, but maybe they have changed their mind with the Z600 and the T230
thats is my hope, and im trying to get it confirmed one way or the other
and yes, dreaming is indeed wonderful, and can make life worth living, opening my eyes and looking at the facts of the world today, there is much more likely that i would feel like dropping dead right away
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GoH
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has this thread turned into a philosophy lesson on life? yummy. | |
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