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Converting a CD song to midi |
Scottishlassie
Joined: Aug 16, 2002
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From: Portland, OR
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Okay, I have searched the threads and can't seem to find the answer that I am looking for. Is there a way to take a song off of my cd and convert it to a midi file? Does it require special software? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks :-} |
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ferrarista44
Joined: Jan 30, 2002
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From: down south
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i'm not sure if this is the easiest way. but this is the only way i know.  pardon me.
CD > MP3 > WAV > MIDI.
there are rippers.
there are MP3-WAV converters.
there are WAV-MIDI converters.
all available out there, some trial versions, some free.  |
jbendaou
Joined: Feb 11, 2003
Posts: 458
From: Washington, DC
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you can check: www.download.com just type in "midi converter" and you will see a list from where you can download what you want.
good luck
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delarge
Joined: Sep 03, 2003
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And you could just ripp it to wav and then convert it to midi, and skip the > mp3 > wav part  |
ferrarista44
Joined: Jan 30, 2002
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From: down south
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oh yes, sorry about that.
though i saw that intelliscore software that does convert from MP3 to MIDI already. skippin the wav part. hehe.
the thing about converting to wav is that it generates a big file compared to ripping to MP3.
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deuxani
Joined: Jul 03, 2003
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From: Amsterdam, Merate, Pula
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Come on people, forget about it!! You can convert it, yes, but trust me, your ears will hurt cause it will never ever sound anything like the original song!! All the good quality midi's on the internet are made with midi sequencers. Forget about converting, it's impossible. |
wrath000
Joined: May 14, 2003
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From: Norway
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Actually they correct way would be CD->Wav->Midi. No need to stop at intermidiate mp3 format which takes time and decreases quality.
As deuxani said, the final result will sound nothing like the original. As a matter of fact, it wouldn't sound much like anything...
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anonymous1
Joined: Aug 10, 2003
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From: London UK
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MIDI (musical instrument digital interface) isn't sound. All it is is binary code that triggers sound (from a sound module for example). So you can't covert wav files into midi. |
Scottishlassie
Joined: Aug 16, 2002
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From: Portland, OR
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Okay. I have half of the people saying yes I can do it and half saying no I can't do it. I am in no way familiar with converting cd music to wav and then to midi, are there any step by step directions on how to do this? Or is there some piece of software out there that I can just copy my cd music to and it will automatically convert it to midi? I really appreciate all of the help and input you knowledgable people are giving me!
Thanks :-}
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apotts
Joined: Aug 27, 2003
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From: UK
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Scottish lassie,
CD, WAV, and MP3 files all contain sound, that is the sound of the original song but in different file formats.
MIDI is like sheet music, just bits of paper with notes on. A midi player (like the T610) is like one of those automatic pianos - it just plays notes from sheet music, except it has a handful of fixed sounds (like piano, drums, sax and so on) that the notes can trigger.
So to create a MIDI, you need to write the sheet music, with maybe 8 or so tracks for the different instruments. Not easy if you're not an experienced musician!
You can get software that tries to listen to music, and guess what the notes are. As you can imagine the results are pretty poor.
Best to search around on the internet for the MIDI file of the song you want, edit it in a MIDI editing prog, then send it to your phone.
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M-Jay
Joined: Aug 14, 2003
Posts: 108
From: The Netherlands
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Go to this site:
http://www.midi.org/about-midi/specinfo.shtml
The  T610 supports MIDI 1.0 (32 channels)
Greetz,
M-Jay
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anonymous1
Joined: Aug 10, 2003
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From: London UK
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@apotts
Its not sheet music... like I explained in my previous post its binary information... just data. I know this shit cos I study Music Tech. |
ESTOR
Joined: Apr 20, 2002
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From: Singapore
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WAV/MP3 or anything on the computer is binary information/data, just like Midi I have to agree that Midi is more like sheet music.
Here is something similar but infinitely simpler: Speach/Voice Recognization . Does it work? Barely. And that's only recognizing a single voice when you speak in a certain way. Furthermore, the program only writes out the words for you. It doesn't read it out mimicking your voice and tone.
WAV/MP3 -> Midi is recognizing MULTIPLE voices (different musical instruments), and after recognition, it has to PLAY BACK the music with the exact tempo (varying speeds), varying degrees of loudness. That's why it's lousy.
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Cycovision
Joined: Nov 30, 2003
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From: England
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@anonymous1
With respect, what does your binary data represent when sent to a midi interpretor? Instrument names, note lengths, rests and so on. In effect then, midi can be compared to sheet music in that it is a set of instructions rather than true digitally sampled sound. I accept that the analogy is not quite correct, but the rest of the posters here are simply trying to explain it in non technical terms.
So to re-iterate what everybody else has been saying, converting CD based music to midi is not impossible, it just doesn't work very well because TRUE midi music (.mid format, not .it or .mod format) has a limited number of 'instruments' that can be used. It's rather like a kiddie's musical keyboard, you get 200 different sounds or so to play with and that's it! This means that when your computer 'listens' to the CD (or .wav file, whatever), it has to choose the closest match from the instruments available on the list to try and represent what it's hearing.
As others have mentioned, there's also the issue of timing the notes and rests properly. Again, computers aren't very good at sussing this out just by 'listening' to a CD. All of the good ringtones that you hear were created from scratch by musicians using keyboards linked to computers that are running a type of software known as 'Trackers'.
So if you want your favourite song as a ringtone, you basically have two choices:
1. Wait for one of the many ringtone vendors to release it, or
2. Get a tracker program and make it yourself!
Trackers are not the easiest programs to get the hang of (I know, I've been using them for around six years!) but it can be good fun playing around with them non the less. There's an excellent free tracker called 'Modplug Tracker' available on the net. You can download it here. You don't need a musical keyboard to use it, a mouse and PC keyboard will do.
Incidentally, Modplug Tracker is also excellent for editing midi ringtones. Have fun
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Church Decorator
Joined: Oct 20, 2003
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From: Perth, Western Australia
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there is NO WAY a wav file can be converted to a MIDI file !! you are crazy if you think there is!!
trackers are so oldskool man !!!!! cubase + vsts is the way to go - plus of course you can use it to make ringtones hehe
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