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Java in T68. Possible? |
yoggi
Joined: Jan 21, 2002
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Im just qurius. Could SE put in Java in our phone? I menan technikley. Or does it reqire a special Java Chip in the phone?
Would kick som butt if that was what they where implementing in the new software. Could be a reason why its taking so long. =) |
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oskar
Joined: Mar 18, 2002
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My guess is that even if it would be possible to implement it, the phone would need some more memory to store the downloaded software..
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Cytech
Joined: Feb 19, 2002
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it's possible... but as oskar wrote... the phone's memory is too smal both to have room for a java engine and for any java applications
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yoggi
Joined: Jan 21, 2002
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Your probably right.. Its too bad thow.. Ahh.. well.. Ill just have to go and get myself a P800 when it comes out... |
oskar
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As we are discussing java I have a little question..
A couple of days ago a read that someone asked if it would be possible to use wap over bluetooth instead of gprs..
would it be possible to write such an application for a java phone? if you also write some "server" application for your pc?
/Oskar |
Cytech
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oskar... in a way yes... but you still need to communicate with GPRS from the phone out on the net 
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oskar
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Cytech:
why couldn't I use the Internet connection on my pc? |
Cytech
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maybe it would work... maybe not.... |
yoggi
Joined: Jan 21, 2002
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probably dependning on how mutch hardware access is given by the phone..? |
MrFone
Joined: Mar 09, 2002
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tomw
Joined: Feb 28, 2002
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This would of course be technically possible. Writing a gateway application for internet<=>bluetooth has probably already been done...
Getting the phone to know that there is the internet available via bluetooth would be the pain. As said, a java applet could be the answer, but guys, think of the speed...
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hymie
Joined: Jan 11, 2002
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At Cebit trade fair last week SE demonstrated some T68m with JAVA games installed on them!!
So its technically not a problem.. Just guess that you have to sacrifice lots of other features to free enough memory for running a JAVA VM.
SE also teamed up with Synergenix and iFone for implementing Java into their phones. So future SE phones will have the mophun Engine installed. More info on this can be found from here:
http://www.mophun.com
cheers,
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jh67
Joined: Nov 30, 2001
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Oskar >
I dont know who wrote that about wap over bluetooth, instead of using gprs.
But apparently its a bit misunderstood,..as Bluetooth is a personal area network,..not a network provided by an operator (like gprs,gsm).
Its 2 different things.
Bluetooth can be compared to e.g. WI-FI (802.11b). Although WIFI is much stronger and demands more power,..cant be used in mobile-phones.
Bluetooth is only for short-distance communication between 2 or more devices.
Bluetooth is in a way very limited, as the phones with bluetooth only reach about 10 metres.
Bluetooth at its highest (with a dongle at e.g. an office) will reach some 120-250 metres.
I've seen people asking about this before ; e.g. using bluetooth as a connection to wap and so on.
The problem, I think, is that people think that Bluetooth is a network like gprs.
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oskar
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@jh67:
No.. I have not misunderstood the difference.. The idea was to be able to use wap on the phone for free when I'm near my computer.. Maybe not very useful, but it would still be fun..
or maybe I have misunderstood it.. but in that case I have not yet understood that I have misunderstood it.. =)
/Oskar |
qbctyny
Joined: Jan 09, 2002
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To do this the phone (the bluetooth) needs to comply to certain bluetooth profiles, such as LAN Access profile- client. The T68 does not comply to the Bluetooth LANP profile. |
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Posted: 2002-03-28 21:22
