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bbasra
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Posted: 2003-05-16 10:05
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I am just wondering, how many of you and how OFTEN you get the warning triangle asking you to hold down the power button for 10 seconds and reset the phone.

i got mine 2 times now since i have owned the phone which is coming close to one month now.
Lordmike
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Posted: 2003-05-16 10:11
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I don't know when or why this happen, but it happened three times when I was at this party far out in nowhere with almost no chance of making a call. Plus I kept it in my pocket all the time. Hope someone got a clue.
tr1xt3r
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Posted: 2003-05-16 10:27
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the 'triangle of death' happens when a program
tries to do something that SE never anticipated in the P800.
The best example i can think of is a divide by zero error
on the pc. This is more prevalent with 3rd party apps
that SE never got to test thorougly with the P800.
not another triangle of death!!
Koen
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Posted: 2003-05-16 10:51
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I have had it more then 4 times since I own the P800. I did not purchase the Orange SPV because I did not like the idea of using a phone with microsoft OS. I thought the symbian OS was more stable. Unfortunately this was not a correct assumption in my case.

Cheers,
Koen
demon106
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Posted: 2003-05-16 11:02
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Quote:

On 2003-05-16 10:51, Koen wrote:
I have had it more then 4 times since I own the P800. I did not purchase the Orange SPV because I did not like the idea of using a phone with microsoft OS. I thought the symbian OS was more stable. Unfortunately this was not a correct assumption in my case.

Cheers,
Koen



What people fail to remember when blaming the Symbian OS for crashes is that half the time it isnt the OS's fault ! Symbian is actually a very stable OS. Its just that when you start adding beta version, and badly coded software packages to the phone that problems start occurring. I've not had a single crash on my P800 that hasnt been caused by removing the last bit of software I installed.

Andy
tbl
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Posted: 2003-05-16 11:06
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Lucky you. I would say I get it at least once a week, sometimes more.

I mostly get it whilst composing a text, dunno if I'm trying to write too fast for the poor P800s JotPro to handle.

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tr1xt3r
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Posted: 2003-05-16 11:09
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actually koen, the spv hangs a lot more than the p800.
so i'm happy with my choice.
and the spv doesnt come with an mmc!! even the SL45
gave me a 32mb mmc.
and i really dont like the back case of the spv,
too plasticky and kinda cheap looking.

i can live with 'triangles of death' as long as they dont
happen too often. the other features of the p800 more
than make up for it.

i have only one gripe re: the p800...
why the heck are Memstick DUOs so darn expensive???
proprietary hardware sucks.

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bidz
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Posted: 2003-05-16 11:46
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mine can crash once a week or like last night 3-4 times in under 30mins.. it all depends on how fast i try to write sms'es in flip-closed mode..
tbl
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Posted: 2003-05-16 11:48
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@bidz

Flip closed? hmmm I've been ok so far with closed mode.

I only seem to get problems in flip open mode using handwriting recognition, get two lines written, then it all starts to fade away (looks like when you shake an etch-a-sketch) and you know the triangle of death is on it's way
teg
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Posted: 2003-05-16 12:49
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Mine has crashed around 6-8 times and I've had this phone for almost a month. The first time it crashed I was trying to highlight > copy a phone number in the contacts (this was under R1A or R1D)


Two times it crashed while my phone was in the case that was included in the package and I had the keypad facing up and the keypad was locked (so your guess is as good as mine as to why it crashed)


My p800 has crashed 2-3 times under R2D (granted I have a few 3rd party apps installed)


I think it crashed one time while I was trying to compose a very long email in yahoo using p800's internet browser (under R2D I believe)


The other times were miscellaneous


I still love the phone overall

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T68iKING
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Posted: 2003-05-16 12:57
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Yeah, does anyone know how it can crash when its in your pocket (keylocked, etc, flip closed)? I was on the bus yesterday, and pulled it out to make a call, and notice the funny triangle, so i had to reset, any reason for this?

EDIT: Had my phone for over month and half, crashed about 3-4 times since, 1 due to installing new app, and i cant remember why for the other three times. Not a big problem though, anyone can live with it (unless it happens every 11 seconds), just hold a button for 10sec for fix.

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Andy_P
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Posted: 2003-05-16 13:05
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I don't actually think the WTOD is anything to do with 3rd party apps at all, although this is based on opinion and experience, not fact.

In 99% of the cases when Ive had it (less than 10 since february) Ive been composing a sms in flip open, with pretty crap signal.

Im R1D and it doesn't bother me at all... if it did i would upgrade.

To say that having restarting a device like this once or twice a month makes it unstable is totally ludicrous.
kradcliffe
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Posted: 2003-05-16 13:30
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Never had the triangle yet !!

Had the P800 for about 10 weeks, installed & de-installed lots of software and no crashes whatsoever.

Maybe I'm just lucky .....

Keith
Nas789
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Posted: 2003-05-16 13:38
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I used to get the triangle of death pretty often...at least twice a day...but since I've had the upgrade to R2D...nothin!!

Once u've got it upgraded I'm sure u'll c that it doesnt appear at all...if it does then u've definatley got problems!!
demon106
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Posted: 2003-05-16 13:51
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Andy_P

I had a problem with my phone a while ago where any time I tried to access my contacts, the phone would either lock up for 30 secs+, or I'd get the triangle of death.

I couldnt even receive any calls, because the phone would search the contacts database for the phone number of the person calling, and it would hang.

Now to me it looked like a problem with the contacts database, but it turned out to be a beta piece of software I had installed earlier that day which didnt even use the contacts database! I cant remember which software it was now, but uninstalling it cured the problem.

You'll find a lot of people both on Esato and other P800 forums who have found that uninstalling a recently installed piece of software cures crashing problems. I'm not saying that the P800 firmware is bug-free, as nothing ever is, but it does appear to be very stable in its standard form.

Andy


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