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Author What we'd like to see in P800
Sage
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Posted: 2003-04-27 20:30
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Now, I know there have been threads on this before but maybe we need one that is a bit more organized. Heres what Ive got so far.

1. Official SE Covers
2. Sms Counter.
3. The ability to record calls.
4. Ability to use Line 2.
5. T9 predictive text.
6. Contrast adjustment.
7. Birthday field in contacts, in sync with calendar.
8. Clock screensaver (on/off optional).
9. Option to hide number by default when calling.
10. Themes / color / background.
11. Video Recording with sound.
12. Zoom capability.
13. Alarms that go off even when Phone is off.
14. Improved and easier Bluetooth.
15. Ability to change buttons to specified options (for example “internet” button turns bluetooth on.)

Ok, now is there anything else? Please do not repost things that I have said here.

[ This Message was edited by: Sage on 2003-04-27 20:02 ]
watcher
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Posted: 2003-04-28 00:15
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ability that every entry in phonebook can be member of more groups


lightboy
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Posted: 2003-04-28 00:27
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Better management of contacts sotred on the SIM card, for example to copy one number across and not the whole bloody lot.
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Fahed_2000
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Posted: 2003-04-28 02:03
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  • Sms folders
  • Choosing the processor speed (Up to the full 200 mhz)
  • Task manager (In the task bar)


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markowen58
P800
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Posted: 2003-04-28 11:32
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Different themes/color/background profile is a definite.

I really want a cinema/theatre profile where my fone does a quiet but distinct cough rather than just vibrate.

as for the ability to record calls I thought you could with the voice memo function. havent tried it yet but if not the it really should. and should be accessable as easily as possible from the 'front end' whilst making a call not having to dig down to find it.

I disagree with the zoom function, move closer, A digital zoom sucks and is hardly worth it.

As for the improved bluetooth a defualt pairing (ie my PC) and the ability to automatically turn on when I want to send a file would be nice. the ability to send multiple files (pics mainly) in one go would be a godsend too.

T9 predictive text. I would prefer an autocomplete function with internal dictionary, that would be much faster than T9 or at least something in between would be nice. sincde when I last used T9 I had to scroll abit to find what I want. A short little menu showing the most commonly used and added words would be nice.

Making Handy day a defualt application where you can see your appointment/tasks/unread mesaages etc should have been included from the start.

also your last point on making the internet button a multifunction button where you can customise a short menu for various task, mainly turing bluetooth on/off (although see my point above) changing profiles ideally/voice memo when the phones on/etc. would be most welcome.

Finally I found myself really wanting to video my friends this weekend whilst out. I so want this function it hurts. Esp. since my friend can do this on his 7650 and thinks its a better phone than my P800. Some people just don't get it
markowen58
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Posted: 2003-04-28 12:23
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Having second thoughts about what I posted. Well I still agree with what I said but I think the real point is more of those apps/functions listed its more a question of what should definitly be included on the p800 and what should be installable as third party apps/ free 'goodies' cd.

Unquestionably there should be more phone fuctions first IMO since I primarily use the p800 as a phone. other apps etc should come second and be more installed out of choice and personal need rather than wasting memory on functions/apps I don't need.
H3inZ
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Posted: 2003-04-28 12:38
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didn't make it possible to record calls because it is illegal!!

It is not legal before you get the accept from the caller in the other end of the line, and offcourse can't control that :/
janahan
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Posted: 2003-04-28 13:03
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You folks have come up with some good ideas for "improvements" but before that they need to FIX one great big screw up.

THERE IS NO UNDO IN MOST OF THE INCLUDED APPS.

This is the ONLY phone that i have had that the basic funtions do not have an undo Feature. I have ranted about this before.

Here is a scenario, you are editing a address record, and accidently swipe the stylus in such a way that you delete the contacts phone number. You find there is no undo to restore that (even more disasterous after painstakingly writing a whole email and loosing a huge chunk). so then you think ok, u will not save the changes u made, except the changes ARE saved, no confirmation, nothing. GRRRRRRRRR.... once a change is made, thats it. serious phone homicide approaching.. and then the final straw comes when you walk within 10 meters of your bluetooth enabled pc, and your phone helpfully and automatically connects to your computer, and it automatically sychronises... so your "backup" on outlook is also replaced with the mistake. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, phone heads towards the bin.


This scenario has happend to me, luckily i take backups, however ALL previous SE/Nokia phones I have owned ask if you wish to save the changes. The lack of undo would be excusable, if there was a way of rejecting changes., however neither feature exisits.

Second wish i would like to see is "hotfix" updates. so that you can "patch" the OS via small downloadable files to fix some quirks without havign to take it to a service center. This will be a good stopgap until we are able to flash ourselves. Even my ancient Palm supported this basic ability.
Owned (order of purchase): Nok 8110, Nok 6150, Nok 8210, Nok 6210, Eric r320s, Eric T68m, SE T300, SE P800, SE T610, SE S700i, Mot V3i, SE K800i
lloydcody
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Posted: 2003-04-28 13:22
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The P800 also needs an improved MP3 player - eg with a graphic EQ and playlist functions.

ALSO... The ability to easily REORDER THE MENU!

LLOYDY
ju911
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Posted: 2003-04-28 15:23
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Synch contacts together with categories...
Rickstur
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Posted: 2003-04-28 15:40
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I would like the little number icons like the t68, green factory for work, black mobile for cell number, yellow(?) house for home number.

Now the only color is blue, and there are only two different kind, mobile and home phone. Sure you can add w or h for work or home but I liked the colored ones. This gave a much better overview if you just look quickly at the numbers(eg. when you are in your car).

jplacson
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Posted: 2003-04-28 16:04
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YA! The really annoying thing about the current UIQ is that it's all BLUE!!!! BLUE! BLUE! BLUE!!!!

I'm sick of it!!! I want each tab to be a different color!!! I want colorful icons!!! Not blue dots with little symbols inside them! I want colors!!! What the #$%@ is the use of a color LCD if the only color they'll put is BLUE!?!?!?!

Even the virtual keypad is blue!!!

Grrrrrrr.....
markowen58
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Posted: 2003-04-28 16:20
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@H3inZ

Yeah but so is running someone over with a car or shooting someone with a gun. Point is it requires people to be responsable and more to the point is the responsability of the user of the phone not the company that makes it. otherwise Ford,etc would get prosecuted when someone makes the conscious decision to run a red light and hits someone. All it would take is a disclaimer in the manual or on the phone.

I personally use it to record conversations with customer services departments in much the same way they record mine.

And it's way, way easier than using a pen and paper.

I agree you need the permission of the person on the other end but again thats down to the people using the phone in a responsable manner. obviously its open to abuse but ultimately its a feature that should be included in the phone.

@lloydy

I would like to see a better MP3/AAC player one that has EQ, skins even, maybe even a combined audio video player the way the latest winamp is. but I would prefer being able to swap it for the one on there at the mo. if i needed it or just keep the bog standard one.

Point is what kind of functions would we like to see? and what kind of apps would we like to have? apps should be able to be removed or added to. Functions should be in there.

The undo feature, or for instance the switcher app I close apps down with to free memory should be a function. A better MP3 player is an app.
Sage
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Posted: 2003-04-28 16:48
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Heres what we have, in a couple of days (when list is complete) lets do something about these problems. Everyone in the Esato community send an email to SE with these suggestions and tell them they need to do something about them.

1. Official SE Covers

2. Sms Counter.

3. The ability to record calls.

4. Ability to use Line 2.

5. T9 predictive text.

6. Contrast adjustment.

7. Birthday field in contacts, in sync with calendar.

8. Clock screensaver (on/off optional).

9. Option to hide number by default when calling.

10. Themes / color / background.

11. Video Recording with sound.

12. Zoom capability.

13. Alarms that go off even when Phone is off.

14. Improved and easier Bluetooth.

15. Ability to change buttons to specified options (for example “internet” button turns bluetooth on.)

16. Members of Phone Book can be placed in more than one group.

17. The ability to copy one contact at a time on the phone book from the SIM phone book.

18. Sms folders

19. Choosing the processor speed (Up to the full 200 mhz)

20. Task manager (In the task bar)

21. Handy-Day like SW installed in the phone.

22. Undo Feature

23. Being able to delete multiple contacts at a time.

24. Being able to delete contacts just by pressing “c” in fc mode and going to the file menu in fo mode instead of having to click on the contact then going to the file menu and not being able to delete contacts in fc mode at all.

25. Being able to update firmware ourselves.

26. Improved Music Player with Graphic EQ, Playlist Functions, Skins etc.

27. Icons for different types of numbers for each contact.

28. Profiles

29. Being able to divert calls when in Desk Stand etc.

30. The phone needs to ask to save when editing contacts etc. (on/off optional)

Anything else?

Well if this was another phone (Nokia ) I would be able to find at least 60, as I have with the Nokia 7650.
epscilon
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Posted: 2003-04-28 17:17
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also the ability open the calendar in day, week or month views.
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