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SE online firmware upgrade |
jonnix
Joined: Jan 22, 2003
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From: Lisboa, Portugal
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Does anyone knows why SE doesn't let we upgrade our SE phones directly from theit site, just like Siemens do, with S55, for example?
I mean, with so many firmware versions available so far, why do they make all their costumers go bother the service point people, anda lose time and money?
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DutchmanNL
Joined: Apr 14, 2003
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From: Netherlands
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There is a "rumor" that this will be posible in the near futher. I dont know more then that. 
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Eleventy7
Joined: Jul 05, 2002
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From: the rotten oasis
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it's in the pipeline, but SE won't let us use it till they're sure it's working properly
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Fahed_2000
Joined: Feb 12, 2002
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From: UK - London
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They are afraide that some people will mess up the phones then claim it on the warrenty
also so that people don't modify the os
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jonnix
Joined: Jan 22, 2003
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From: Lisboa, Portugal
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I don't think that being suspicious about their clients is the best way to get to sell more phones.
What about Siemens? Do they remove the phone warranty?
I don't think that's a real problem. I mean, what can be the problem about going to SE site, download an executable, connect your phone, an the run the firmware upgrade? The executable can verify itself, to see if it's not corrupted. |
jtrascap
Joined: Apr 14, 2003
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I had a Siemens SL-45 and there weren't any updates THROUGH SIEMENS.
That said, I did upgrade the phone once to make it a SL-45i (the Java version) by going through a German webstite and doing some funky stuff through their flasher app and a rogue Siemens file.
Still - don't think it was worth it. Traded one bunch of issues for another. |
jonnix
Joined: Jan 22, 2003
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From: Lisboa, Portugal
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@ jtrascap
Go to http://www.my-siemens.com/MySiemens/CDA/Index/0,2730,PT_pt_0_page%253Ahome,FF.html (it's the portuguese version of the site), and on the right side of the page, click on Upgrade S55. That's what i mean about online firmware upgrade. That's waht i would like SE to do. And that's what i hoppe SE will do |
bart
Joined: Feb 03, 2002
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i think  is afraid that there server will crash, and when it crashes and your updating your phone, the update is uncomplete, and then you'll have to restart when the server comes back up. if the server would go online and somebody would post in on esato, it would crash, every body would update there phone, i've got about 5-6 phones that can use an update. |
sxt173
Joined: Mar 24, 2003
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From: USA
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the server crashing is not an issue. I run a server for a company the size (maybe a bit larger) then SE, and we can handle upwards of 2000 hits a second.
PLUS, you are downloading a file to your client and then running a firmware flash utility to access the file and update your phone. You are not doing a live update from the web-server. That would not be efficient and you would have thousands of people with non-functioning phones, because their dial-up or something else got disconnected... |
jonnix
Joined: Jan 22, 2003
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From: Lisboa, Portugal
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@ sxt173
You're right, that's the way Siemens do it, anda that's the only logic way to do it. And i think it is safe.
That's exactly why i don't understand why SE and all phone manufacturers in general don't follow this kind of procedure.
The only reason i can imagine to justify that, except the "is getting done, wait a litle bit more" reason, is that they like their costumers so much that they want all of them in their Service Points  |
maddav
Joined: Dec 01, 2002
Posts: 356
From: Nottingham, UK
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They better do it soon i want upgraded firmware for my cam and it's going to cost me £30, knowing my luck they'll release it the day after i pay.
This message was posted from a T68i |
jonnix
Joined: Jan 22, 2003
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From: Lisboa, Portugal
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I believe they will. They have to. Maybe the day after you pay for the firmware upgrade... |
maddav
Joined: Dec 01, 2002
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From: Nottingham, UK
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I wouldn't really mind paying £30 as well as upgrading online if  added Java to the T68i. But i doubt that will ever happen.
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jonnix
Joined: Jan 22, 2003
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From: Lisboa, Portugal
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I don't think so, also. T610 is almost on the stores...
Keep your T68i, it's a really good phone, but it's gonna be replaced, soon. For that reason, i don't think SE will bother to put java into T68i. Sorry... |
maddav
Joined: Dec 01, 2002
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From: Nottingham, UK
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Ho-hum, i was thinking of getting a P800, but that's alot of money for me!
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Posted: 2003-04-22 16:02
