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UK Orange Access Pack and P800 |
zahg
Joined: Mar 19, 2003
Posts: 78
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Hi,
I only just found out about the Orange Access Pack from another thread on this forum. I understand that it is free for 3 months if requested before end of April and that you may use it for GPRS access (fair usage of around 10MB/month?). The Orange website states it can be used for Orange Wap and Entertainment services. So a bit confused whether this just means the orange wap site and services - or means any wap sites only - or any GPRS access whether that be WAP, HTML pages thru Opera, or reading POP3 email. If this is the latter case then this is a really good service Orange are providing.
Has anyone been charged for browsing web pages over GPRS?
Bit pee'ed off that Orange didnt mention this service when I asked to upgrage my GPRS Bundle 1 to Bundle 2 which is £4 for 2MB/month. I did 2MB within 2 days when i first got the phone. Will cancel the Bundle service.
Cheers
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draje
Joined: Feb 28, 2003
Posts: 27
From: uk
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The access pack gives you only unlimited (10MB;-)) WAP browsing that includes all WAP sites not only the Orange one
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CPWGooner
Joined: Jun 06, 2002
Posts: 73
From: Milton Keynes, UK
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are you sure about that?
I contacted Orange and they said it was their own sites only.
I look at the Esato wap site nearly everyday and chose Orange GPRS WAP as my profile.
But when I look in my GPRS data log its all taken out or Orange GPRS and not WAP GPRS.
When I got my phone bill I was disgusted to hear it was 160.00 |
psikey
Joined: Jan 31, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: UK - South Yorkshire
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I went into this in a lot of detail in an earlier thread & managed to get my GPRS refunded.
This is the situation as I have been told & many discussions with various departments at orange but definitive answer from the wires free data department.
The Orange phone comes pre-configured with Orange GPRS Internet & Orange GPRS WAP.
The access pack is for connections that only use the GPRS WAP.
Now I have found that Opera will not work with the GPRS WAP profile wheras the internal browser does.
You can access all WAP sites and for some reason some WEB type sites with the Orange GPRS WAP. I even double checked if I would be charged when I viewed WEB sites over the WAP connection which at first Orange couldn't answer & didn't know how I could get some WEB sites with the WAP connection but they ensured me that any data I sent or recieved over the Orange WAP profile would be part of the access pack.
I have already had one bill which showed my WAP access at 6MB free with the GPRS Internet at ~ £45 (got this refunded).
I expressed my concern that all this was very confusing at than many people could run up large bills without knowing it.
As a final note, you can only get your POP mail using the GPRS internet profile but this is very controllable especially if you set to download headers only then just read the mail your urgent to read.
Hope this helps 
Other useful tip is to set the option to display a connection dialogue for you to confirm the choice of connection before connecting.
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roskelld
Joined: Dec 01, 2001
Posts: 98
From: UK - Orange P990i
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One tip I got on this is. You must cancel the account when the 3 months is up or Orange will start charging you for it. |
thatsok
Joined: Mar 02, 2003
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Orange do have a GPRS service which is pay as you use @ £3 per meg. Still not cheap enough but at least you can switch the GPRS log on and keep a track of how much youv'e used. Thier billing for GPRS starts at the 1st of each month I believe. |
psikey
Joined: Jan 31, 2002
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From: UK - South Yorkshire
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@roskelld
Think its only £4 per month after 3 months (may depend on contract) |
benw
Joined: Mar 24, 2003
Posts: 10
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As I understand it any data transfered via the 'orangewap' APN (which is what the pre-configured Orange GPRS Wap connection uses) will come out of your access pack allowance (10mb) assuming you subscribe to it of course. I have been able to view quite a few proper html websites using the Orange WAP connection and the built in browser on the P800, however as was already stated the WAP account won't work for checking POP3 e-mail or with Opera (why?) - for that you need to use the Orange GPRS connection which transfers data via the 'orangeinternet' APN which is charged at £3 a meg unless you subscribe to a GPRS bundle.
HTH |
zahg
Joined: Mar 19, 2003
Posts: 78
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benw: I think you are correct in your last post there, altho I have talked to Orange today to somebody that didn't really have a clue, she went off and asked someone else about HTML/web browsing and pop3 email access and said yes they would be covered under the access pack, but she didnt say I should be using Orange GPRS WAP for it.
Think I may continue to use Orange GPRS GPRS and when bill comes in complain that it was not made clear to me that I should have been using Orange GPRS WAP.
-zahg |
alias
Joined: Feb 21, 2003
Posts: 120
From: London
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The Access Pack does not work with the P800.
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zahg
Joined: Mar 19, 2003
Posts: 78
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Well when i requested the Access pack they checked compatibility with my phone and said it was compatible and gave me the pack (free for 3 months). |
Aled
Joined: Nov 25, 2002
Posts: 320
From: Wales
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You can use it with your p800, you can view anything on the internet with your built in browser using the wap data account. It doesnt include using opera or email as these apps need to connect directly to the server where the files your viewing are stored. access pack only includes connection to oranges wap portal, but you can access all web or wap pages on the internet through the portal. You will be charged £8 per mb for email and opera browsing. Hope this clears it up 4 you.
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Bogman
Joined: Feb 22, 2003
Posts: 123
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Guys!
Using the access pack you can only view WAP pages through the Orange WAP gateway you can't get out onto the Internet.
The P800 browser just lets you view WAP pages in HTML format.
The Bogman  P800  TDK BUD  HBH-60 |
Aled
Joined: Nov 25, 2002
Posts: 320
From: Wales
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All a wap portal does is fetch the data via http (the same as a web browser does) compresses it, and sends it to your phone. Anything stored on a http server (web server) can be accessed through the wap portal, that includes wml, html, pictures, anything.
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evoke
Joined: Mar 05, 2002
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hmm well i got the access pack last week after being on the 15mb GPRS option for 6 weeks.. ive now dropped down to the 4mb package for any net useage and use the 10mb on the access for the WAP useage.. im monitoring both via the gprs log.
i hope their are no nasty surprises lurkin coz it is very confusing! if it is right though it beats paying £25/month plus VAT for useage when i can pay £4 for 10mb wap (free for 3 months) and £7 for the 4mb GPRS net.
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Posted: 2003-04-09 13:01
