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tai020381
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Posted: 2024-05-30 14:59
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On 2024-05-26 16:10:16, Hawk12 wrote:

On 2024-05-26 05:18:11, tai020381 wrote:

On 2024-05-25 22:08:59, Hawk12 wrote:
I have not seen any statement from sony if this phone is compatible with the vlog kit.


Olle Nilsson was using it to shoot birds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvNqBZwnM1E&t=3s



that was just tripod. Not that screen connected to phone to use rear cam as selfie. For example mark 3 cannot use it, just pro-i/mark4/mark5


Here you go. This guy is using vlogging kit.
https://youtu.be/7W2okoilEUs?si=ijqeq-wT7Z_RSJ5x

Same from whatgear:
https://youtu.be/xaC9STcMS9Y?si=DSTyVfifszF6W02t
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MRVX
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Posted: 2024-06-12 00:31
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im in delema.. to choose which one.. xperia 1 vi or galaxy s24 ultra.. RM6+++ in malaysia
tai020381
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Posted: 2024-06-12 03:42
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On 2024-06-12 00:31:50, MRVX wrote:
im in delema.. to choose which one.. xperia 1 vi or galaxy s24 ultra.. RM6+++ in malaysia


S24 ultra for countries out of US will likely use exynos chip. A factor for your consideration. Overall is your call though.
tai020381
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Posted: 2024-06-13 23:42
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Sony considering making more scarlet color and also other colors!!

https://sumahodigest.com/?p=31027
cool_sauce
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Posted: 2024-06-15 08:46
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Had a chance to use 1VI for about four days, it was a loaner from my friend. I didn't use it as a cellphone but rather as a camera.

- Video recording is utter garbage, how in the hell you go from methodical Video Pro and Cinema Pro to something so this really? Can't adjust the gain, doesn't have 25fps, no audio input adjustment. no level indicator It's just horrible. But not as horrible as new app UI

- Video tab UI is the worst I've ever seen. Most of the UI elements are inside my viewfinder. What the hell is up with a black header that has useless options such as torch and "quick" swap of resolution and fps? Also torch is again present when you tap the settings icon.

- When you want to adjust the temperature and brightness you have to tap on the screen that was like the most unintuitive feature of old Xperia camera app back in the day of XZ, no one knew it existed unless they tapped on the screen by accident. The worst part is when you tap on the screen you lock subject tracking so once you are done with temp/exposure sliders you have to tap tracking rectangle to disable it.

- There are no focus and AE lock button in Photo Pro tab, you have to half press the shutter button to engage it. Also when you do half a press some icons on screen dim more than others. That tells you they didn't pay attention to UI at all. For example, mode letter P/S/M will not dim down as flash icon.

- You can't just throw in bunch of stuff on a viewfinder and expect people to frame their shots properly.

- Camera UI is half-assed by some amateurs. I get it they wanted to replicate Pixel and iPhone type of experience but then at least replicate it properly and make it better

- Display is worse in every possible sense compared to 1IV/V I couldn't care that it's brighter it's the only perk that it has over a display on 1IV/V

- Device is wide enough not to be a one hand device but not wide enough to be considered two hands device


I cannot believe they would release a phone with such a half finished camera app. It just tells me it was a last-minute decision to scrap Video Pro. New Camera app doesn't have a single feature of Cinema Pro inside so it's a blatant lie when they said new app is Photo Pro, Video Pro and Cinema Pro combined into one. It's not! Not even all Photo Pro features are in there and there is no single feature of Video Pro and Cinema Pro to be found except the looks
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badassmam
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Posted: 2024-06-17 20:27
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It's typical of Sony to half-arse this year and after a few generations they make something decent otherwise there's always something wrong like overheating, bad night shots, the super slow motion came and then went, the tall aspect came and went, and so on. They throw ideas around and wait to see what sticks.
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Posted: 2024-06-19 14:22
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On 2024-06-17 20:27:11, badassmam wrote:
It's typical of Sony to half-arse this year and after a few generations they make something decent otherwise there's always something wrong like overheating, bad night shots, the super slow motion came and then went, the tall aspect came and went, and so on. They throw ideas around and wait to see what sticks.


Product planers don't think hard enough. Here is a perfect solution to cater to both casuals and pros

1. Xperia 1VI should have had shutter button as well as circular shortcut hw button (like PRO-I)
2. Two camera apps: New Camera app found on 1VI and Pro bundle app that combines Photo Pro, Video Pro and Cinema Pro into one icon instead of three icons
3. Long press camera button launches new Camera app. Long press on shortcut button launches Pro App and with every click on the shortcut button it cycles between Photo Pro, Video Pro and Cinema Pro. Long press again shortcut button to return to new Camera app.

That's it! Simple as that. Everyone is satisfied!
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Posted: 2024-06-19 21:55
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Remember I said new cam app was 💩?

Now you guys see.


Gsmarena photos show huge sharpening applied and awful color science, very iphone of them.

I have zero idea why pre-orders in Taiwan are so higher than mark 5, far better phone.
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Posted: 2024-06-20 11:40
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They keep on switching focus in camera department and here is a brief retrospective:


    XZ was losing ground in photography to competition, so they switched the strategy away from photo to video with XZ2 and that's the reason why they introduced HLG video, super slow motion, while Cinema Pro app went into development inspired by Sony F cinema cameras.

    Somewhere between XZ3 and XZ4 the whole management has changed, and they once again switched from video priority to photography being priority. That made OG Xperia 1 a generation gap device much like 1VI is right now. Fortunately enough Cinema Pro was ready by then, so they didn't kill it (but they never improved it either).

    With 1II transition to photography was completed with new sensor and new Photo Pro app. New management EOLed Album app due to software development cost cutting measures. Maybe even the old management would have done the same, we would never know.

    Then suddenly two years later with PRO-I they shifted to Vlogging video due to spiking sales of their ZV camera. They introduced XDCAM inspired Video Pro app tailored to vlogging crowd.

    With 1IV they brought the same vlogging features to more affordable package compared to PRO-I and I guess that didn't go too well. 1V tried to remedy that with new sensor and some cool tricks, even the PRO-I hardware design trickled down to 1V but I would assume that wasn't enough. Xperia team probably couldn't support both photo pro users and video pro users at the same time. I guess it's one demanding customer target group, so they threw the towel.

    So today with 1VI they are going back to early XZ days, they are shifting their focus once again to consumer camera app experience.
badassmam
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Posted: 2024-06-21 09:11
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I'm a total camera novice but the way I see it, Sony camera department should not be involved with Xperia. They have different objectives and budgets. Sony cameras are specialist devices, you can't have that on a mainstream phone. From Xperia, you can't put a specialist camera in a phone without making so many compromises that it turns out rubbish anyway. The Xperia Pro is garbage.

Xperia needs a hard reset again. Bezels on the tall aspect ratio was fine, but now with the standard aspect ratio, the camera punch hole looks better. Camera apps are a mess. The UI looks so dated, no Sony style at all, just a mess of ideas all round. Also, new phones for that price have to compete against this year's flagships, but it has to be better than last year's ones that have had a price cut. There's no reason to get an 1vi over 1v at all, none whatsoever. The price of Sony phones is outrageous. I tried the Nothing 2 and found the experience so sleek and smooth, also tried the Rog 8 and thought wow, multimedia experience on it was amazing.
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