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Ducki
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Posted: 2021-04-14 13:29
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On 2021-04-14 13:21:35, Hawk12 wrote:
I believe they have replaced 557 and 363 formnew ones, obviusly similar.


"More impressive is the fact that Sony has upgraded all camera module sensors to stacked CMOS (Exmor RS) sensors, with faster sensor readout rates. Like the Xperia Pro, the main 24mm camera module sports sensor readout rates faster than 10ms, while the 16mm and 70/105mm telephoto modules now also have fast readout rates, albeit slightly longer than 10ms."

From dpreview
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Posted: 2021-04-14 13:41
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363 and 557 are already Exmor RS.

Stacked cmos = BSI, 2 layers, no DRAM.


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Posted: 2021-04-14 13:42
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The telephoto sensor was definitely upgraded but the ultrawide looks like having the same exact sensor, IMX363, though I noticed a slight difference in size,
1/2.6" vs 1/2.55", which looks the same to me

Anyhow, what am I blattering about sensor size.
Back in the Z1 to Z2 days, Sony had the largest sensor size in mobile but no one gave a damn about it .

1 iii isn't exactly phenomenal but it is well-rounded and surely has a lot to offer.
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Posted: 2021-04-14 13:45
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Let's hope they focused on software this year. Maybe they got more out from the sensors.
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Posted: 2021-04-14 15:21
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I am comfused if 20fps is just wide again or all three.



Considering 5iii is already here, we can go to 1 iv rumors and wishlist.

I bet they are already working on making periscope longer than 105mm.
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Posted: 2021-04-14 15:26
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On 2021-04-14 15:21:38, Hawk12 wrote:
I am comfused if 20fps is just wide again or all three.



Considering 5iii is already here, we can go to 1 iv rumors and wishlist.

I bet they are already working on making periscope longer than 105mm.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2021-04-14 14:24 ]



"Maximum calculations will depend on shooting environment. Up to x60 calculations per second AF/AE is available for 24mm, 16mm, 70mm and the 105mm lens can calculate up to 30fps AF/AE"

Now I'm confused too
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Posted: 2021-04-14 16:26
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This means main can do 20fps + 60 AF/AE, while the other two half of this, like 1ii.

I suppose..
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Posted: 2021-04-14 16:59
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https://presscentre.sony.eu/p[....]photo-lens-dot-dot-dot-3090143

A nice summary of the differences and new features.

"Maximum fps will depend on shooting environment and settings. Up to 20fps continuous shooting with AF/AE is available for the 24mm lens. The 16mm, 70mm and 105mm lenses can shoot up to 10fps AF/AE."

From 1iii product page.

I also noticed the red shirt tennis player's first photo kinda looks out of focus. When the other pours water on his head, the shadows are lifted way to much it greys out the image.
105mm dog photo looks like a digital zoom, the fur looks a bit like oil painting.
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Posted: 2021-04-14 18:17
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The photos are very compressed, have to wait for gsmarena or maybe YouTube review.

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This picture is interesting, bokeh with dog in motion?
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Posted: 2021-04-14 19:15
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On 2021-04-14 12:35:25, Shino03 wrote:

On 2021-04-14 11:01:36, McKinley wrote:
The Xperia 1iii seems very underwhelming to say the least.
I expected it to be underwhelming but not on this level.



It isn't that bad compared to the 2021 flagships.
Just not that outstanding enough to attract/sway customers from choosing Xperia over others.

It's even very competitive against the S21 series, not that those are phenomenal either by any means, right.

I just wished they have changed the ultrawide and instead put a larger sensor.


I think I jumped to conclusion too fast.
I'm pretty impressed now tbh .
I went to see the presentation and it changed my mind.

The Xperia 5 III green one reminds me a little bit of the Xperia Z3 compact green, which I found quite a looker back then.
[ This Message was edited by: McKinley on 2021-04-14 18:54 ]
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Posted: 2021-04-14 19:20
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Burst shooting features 4 image inputs which are then stacked together and outputted as single frame in the sequence in order to suppress noise and gather more data. This means that sensor captures 80 frames per second but final result output is 20fps. This is the first time I'm hearing this as I was not aware of this process in Mark II devices. Maybe this is Sony talking about it for the first time now or maybe they did improve it since they were talking about burst shooting at night. Now there is no mention if this is only for the 24mm or for all three or should I say four FOVs. Sony is vague like that.
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Posted: 2021-04-14 19:27
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On 2021-04-14 19:15:01, McKinley wrote:

On 2021-04-14 12:35:25, Shino03 wrote:

On 2021-04-14 11:01:36, McKinley wrote:
The Xperia 1iii seems very underwhelming to say the least.
I expected it to be underwhelming but not on this level.



It isn't that bad compared to the 2021 flagships.
Just not that outstanding enough to attract/sway customers from choosing Xperia over others.

It's even very competitive against the S21 series, not that those are phenomenal either by any means, right.

I just wished they have changed the ultrawide and instead put a larger sensor.


I think I jumped to conclusion too fast.
I'm pretty impressed now tbh .
I went to see the presentation and it changed my mind.

The Xperia 5 III green one reminds me a little bit of the Xperia Z3 compact green, which I found quite a looke back then.
[ This Message was edited by: McKinley on 2021-04-14 18:16 ]



5III reminds of XZ3 and just because of that I will pull the trigger on it. I didn't get 5II because I didn't like any of the colors they offered, gray came close but I can't have chrome frame. Original 5 had that weird red, it was nowhere near XZP gorgeous red but it was funky as frame was more purple than red, someone was drunk while approving it.

Like I said I'm a sucker for Xperia green and they have nailed both green and pink on 5III. Now I just wish they bring back XZ2/XZ3 pearl off white, that was the best white they ever did. Flat white on 1/1II is so basic.
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Posted: 2021-04-14 19:44
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I think this 5iii is same shade used by Z5.

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Posted: 2021-04-14 20:16
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Discussion regarding the Xperia 1 III over HERE
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Posted: 2021-04-15 11:59
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Any other phone for 2021?
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