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Hawk12
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Posted: 2020-05-07 10:19
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If they make a 10 Plus II as bigger version of 10 ii, but with 765/5G + 6/128, same cam setup of X5 for less than $650.
Velvet costs as much as G8 in South Korea.
HMD 8.3 is 600 euros.
I doubt mi note 11 will be cheaper than this.


Bonus: charger inside 10ii box is 5V/1,5A . If you want 18W, you buy one.

Bonus 2 : https://youtu.be/n9yzVfs2kUM Start at 3:50
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Posted: 2020-05-07 13:46
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this is the 1ii thread. not the rumor thread or the 10ii thread.

keep the discussions separate!

@Tsepz - trolling as usual huh?
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Posted: 2020-05-07 16:44
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On 2020-05-07 13:46:50, moogoo wrote:
this is the 1ii thread. not the rumor thread or the 10ii thread.

keep the discussions separate!

@Tsepz - trolling as usual huh?




It’s a genuine question, what exactly can Sony take advantage of when LG itself is in a poor state? And where exactly when they have reduced their global footprint.
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Posted: 2020-05-07 19:45
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https://www.expansys.in.th/store/sony/

I thought Xperia were no longer aold in Thailand.
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Posted: 2020-05-07 21:01
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On 2020-05-07 16:44:53, Tsepz_GP wrote:

On 2020-05-07 13:46:50, moogoo wrote:
this is the 1ii thread. not the rumor thread or the 10ii thread.

keep the discussions separate!

@Tsepz - trolling as usual huh?




It’s a genuine question, what exactly can Sony take advantage of when LG itself is in a poor state? And where exactly when they have reduced their global footprint.



It would have been a fair question asked with genuine curiousity had you not included the which clearly implied you think it's a joke that sony would gain any market share just cause of LG's latest flop.

That being said, I tend to agree. Sony is not going to gain any market share, but I don't think their goal is to do so anymore. Anyway, back to 1ii....

Are there any preorder packages out yet? or at least any rumors of one? I'd like to know if there will be any good freebies given. I'm thinking that they won't provide the new XM4s but will instead provide the cheaper model, which is escaping me at the moment.
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Posted: 2020-05-07 21:05
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No word about 🎁 so far.
The headphone m4 was not announced yet.
I think it will be in september only.

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Posted: 2020-05-07 21:26
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On 2020-05-07 21:05:59, Hawk12 wrote:
No word about 🎁 so far.
The headphone m4 was not announced yet.
I think it will be in september only.




true. they aren't announced yet, so it's unlikely they'd be included as a gift. i wouldn't mind the XM3s as a gift again to be honest. they still go for over $200 during a very good sale price, so that would make the pricetag of the 1ii a bit more easy to swallow.
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Posted: 2020-05-07 22:30
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A charger 5V/1,5A is 7,5W?
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Posted: 2020-05-07 22:37
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On 2020-05-07 21:01:24, moogoo wrote:

On 2020-05-07 16:44:53, Tsepz_GP wrote:

On 2020-05-07 13:46:50, moogoo wrote:
this is the 1ii thread. not the rumor thread or the 10ii thread.

keep the discussions separate!

@Tsepz - trolling as usual huh?




It’s a genuine question, what exactly can Sony take advantage of when LG itself is in a poor state? And where exactly when they have reduced their global footprint.



It would have been a fair question asked with genuine curiousity had you not included the which clearly implied you think it's a joke that sony would gain any market share just cause of LG's latest flop.

That being said, I tend to agree. Sony is not going to gain any market share, but I don't think their goal is to do so anymore. Anyway, back to 1ii....

Are there any preorder packages out yet? or at least any rumors of one? I'd like to know if there will be any good freebies given. I'm thinking that they won't provide the new XM4s but will instead provide the cheaper model, which is escaping me at the moment.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2020-05-07 20:25 ]


I think there's actually a possibility for Sony to increase their numbers, but that won't happen due to the collapse of mighty LG.
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Posted: 2020-05-08 01:24
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All brands will lose sales this year.
I think if sony posts 1,5 mi devices, it will be a win already.
In normal year, I think they could improve by maybe 10-12%.

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Posted: 2020-05-08 15:41
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On 2020-05-07 22:37:34, xpr wrote:
I think there's actually a possibility for Sony to increase their numbers, but that won't happen due to the collapse of mighty LG.


increase numbers sure... but they arent gonna make a market share comeback
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Posted: 2020-05-08 16:21
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If they manage to keep at least 5 mi/year may be enough.
None expect them to reach 40mi ever again.
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Posted: 2020-05-08 19:25
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On 2020-05-08 15:41:42, moogoo wrote:

On 2020-05-07 22:37:34, xpr wrote:
I think there's actually a possibility for Sony to increase their numbers, but that won't happen due to the collapse of mighty LG.


increase numbers sure... but they arent gonna make a market share comeback


We'll see.
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Posted: 2020-05-09 00:59
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I suspect if Sony was still using Motion Eye , they 1 ii would still be able to do same with higher res.
Mobile sensors are usually faster than bigger sensors.

A9 reads 24MP when 1 ii reads 6MP.

No dram = no anti-distortion shutter (pretty important for motion)


Bonus: mobile01 has many samples of 10 ii. Very hard to see difference of sharpness between center and corner of main camera.
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Posted: 2020-05-09 03:45
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On 2020-05-08 16:21:48, Hawk12 wrote:
If they manage to keep at least 5 mi/year may be enough.
None expect them to reach 40mi ever again.



I agree, will be very difficult to gain marketshare right now even Samsung is struggling against the wave of Chinese influx into the market.

Samsung is only in a good position right now due to its good marketing, fanbase and good carrier relations. Chinese phones are definitely pushing everyone to their limits.
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