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cool_sauce
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Posted: 2020-03-18 17:51
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If they bundle 256GB version with 1000Xm4 for $1199 I would pull the trigger in pre-order. I know regional Sony sales manager so I will ask for a employee discount too if available. That's how I shop my Bravias
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Posted: 2020-03-18 18:52
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6 years since Z2 and first xperia with 4K video.
Better and stronger cpu every year.
Do you think weird that Intelligent SteadyShot is still just for 1080@30 after all this time?
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Posted: 2020-03-18 19:11
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On 2020-03-18 18:52:06, Hawk12 wrote:
Do you think weird that Intelligent SteadyShot is still just for 1080@30 after all this time?



You mean Intelligent Active? I don't think it's possible on current 12mp sensors to go beyond 1080p, because as far as I know they simply crop 4K video. Someone correct me if I am wrong. Since they are introducing 4K 60 FPS now we will be able to get Intelligent Active with 1080p 60FPS, who knows.
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Posted: 2020-03-18 20:59
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EIS does crop, no matter the resolution.
SS is better at 1080p30 because it is easier for hardware to deal with the task. Okay.

But my point is, the SD845, 855 and 865 are so much stronger than 801.
Still the best mode is restricted to 1080@30 like it has been since 2014.


From weibo ....

" The Sony Xperia 1 II (mark 2) will be updated within a period of time after the release. The update will add the following features:
- Added eye tracking focus function for 16mm ultra wide-angle lens.
- Added low-light high-sensitivity shooting to the 24mm standard lens, which can obtain 1.5 times the sensitivity of X1.
- Movie masters will add 2K 120 frames and 4K 60 frames video shooting capabilities.

Again they will ship without all features. 🤬🤬🤬🤬
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2020-03-18 20:12 ]
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Posted: 2020-03-19 15:16
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On 2020-03-18 20:59:38, Hawk12 wrote:
EIS does crop, no matter the resolution.
SS is better at 1080p30 because it is easier for hardware to deal with the task. Okay.

But my point is, the SD845, 855 and 865 are so much stronger than 801.
Still the best mode is restricted to 1080@30 like it has been since 2014.

[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2020-03-18 20:12 ]



My point is that it only works in 1080p @30fps because they crop the 4k @30fps feed, nothing to do with the computational power of the SoC. Since they were not able to shoot resolutions higher than 1080p when shooting 60fps, they naturally can't enable Intelligent Active at 1080p @ 60fps. AFAIK Samsung's Super Steady shot partially relies on this, and it similarly cannot be enabled in 4k or 1080p @ 60fps (even though the settings say so, exported video is still 1080p @ 30fps). Samsung can shoot 4k @ 60fps though, so there must be something else going on as well.

Anyway, when entering Xperia 1 ii into search bar on clove.co.uk the price displayed is 1200 GBP. I wonder if it's an actual price, or just a placeholder. This is the exact same price as Galaxy S20U 128GB.
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Posted: 2020-03-19 15:26
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" The Sony Xperia 1 II (mark 2) will be updated within a period of time after the release. The update will add the following features:
- Added eye tracking focus function for 16mm ultra wide-angle lens.
- Added low-light high-sensitivity shooting to the 24mm standard lens, which can obtain 1.5 times the sensitivity of X1.
- Movie masters will add 2K 120 frames and 4K 60 frames video shooting capabilities.

Again they will ship without all features. 🤬🤬🤬🤬
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2020-03-18 20:12 ]



What's wrong with adding features after release? I am happy with that. I will be annoyed if they remove features after they release the phone!
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Posted: 2020-03-19 17:36
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Because media will test without all this.
They will bash.
This can affect sales, again.

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Posted: 2020-03-20 02:49
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On 2020-03-19 17:36:01, Hawk12 wrote:
Because media will test without all this.
They will bash.
This can affect sales, again.




Sony stated will release update soon after release. And if the review never stated you can comment and get those people informed ~
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Posted: 2020-03-20 02:58
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Chris from Recombu/Tech Spurt said he could not even use cam app.
Always blocked for hands-on.
But the old photographer that spoke for the press had it working pretty well.

😵
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Posted: 2020-03-20 11:00
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On 2020-03-19 17:36:01, Hawk12 wrote:
Because media will test without all this.
They will bash.
This can affect sales, again.




No worries. Only the very early release batch will have this update, the rest will come preloaded with the update. Reports are conflicting, some say it's Japan Docomo version that will be first to be released others say UK/DE/FR/NORDIC are first in the line instead.
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Posted: 2020-03-20 13:05
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From reddit :

" today I had a chance to talk to someone from one of the largest online retailer. The store hasn't started pre-order yet , but he told me the number of people register for NOTIFY ME WHEN AVAILABLE for 1 II is 11x more 1. This at least show high interest among people".


My Sony W830 arrived yesterday. 20.1MP 1/2.3" 25 - 200mm.
I still have to check pics on PC, but it seems to be pretty impressive.
I has an option called DRO. I think 1 ii has too for Photo Pro.
I am not sure , but think it means DR Optimizer.
WB did not change to punchy colours like phones do when they boost HDR.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2020-03-20 16:58 ]
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Posted: 2020-03-20 18:05
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On 2020-03-20 13:05:12, Hawk12 wrote:
From reddit :

" today I had a chance to talk to someone from one of the largest online retailer. The store hasn't started pre-order yet , but he told me the number of people register for NOTIFY ME WHEN AVAILABLE for 1 II is 11x more 1. This at least show high interest among people".


My Sony W830 arrived yesterday. 20.1MP 1/2.3" 25 - 200mm.
I still have to check pics on PC, but it seems to be pretty impressive.
I has an option called DRO. I think 1 ii has too for Photo Pro.
I am not sure , but think it means DR Optimizer.
WB did not change to punchy colours like phones do when they boost HDR.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2020-03-20 16:58 ]



I believe HDR is Xperia answer to Alpha divisions DRO .but DRO has few different levels.
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Posted: 2020-03-20 18:22
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I remember someone here said newer phones would have 100% exmor. But they do not.

Today a petition was created to show Samsung people want only Exmor and Snapdragon.
People show do same and demand Sony to use only exmor on all devices.


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Posted: 2020-03-20 21:31
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On 2020-03-20 18:22:18, Hawk12 wrote:
I remember someone here said newer phones would have 100% exmor. But they do not.

Today a petition was created to show Samsung people want only Exmor and Snapdragon.
People show do same and demand Sony to use only exmor on all devices.



Would you care to share the link to this petition?
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Posted: 2020-03-20 21:47
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https://www.change.org/p/sams[....]ling-us-inferior-exynos-phones

We need one for sony to use exmor only.
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