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Xajel
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Posted: 2020-02-24 15:31
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Hmmm

Why is this thread is in the rumors forum?

Damn, esato needs more admins.
RacSony
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Posted: 2020-02-24 15:33
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On 2020-02-24 15:17:23, marokanec wrote:
Central Europe official price 1230 euro


which country?
would you mind sharing source?
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Posted: 2020-02-24 15:34
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Cant find ISO and shutter speed values.
moogoo
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Posted: 2020-02-24 15:53
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i wonder if this T* coating has scratch resistance properties because this is usually put onto a camera lens that is generally pretty protected. our phones are in our pockets and thrown around and treated much more roughly than a normal camera lens. if the T* coating can scratch easily then it'll be pretty useless and will cause those scratches to appear in pictures and video, essentially making the camera completely useless.

great idea, but I hope it is implemented correctly.

spec sheet also says 4K will have recording restrictions, though it doesn't say how much or if this is restricted based on storage availability... let's hope it's not due to whether or not it overheats!

all articles say it's UFS 2.1 .. this is obviously information directly from sony. only info we have against it is some guy who works at a factory?

I am curious what sony is doing with a US release phone. are they disabling the 5G antenna? Most US carriers are implementing mmWave 5G networks first, but some are also rolling out sub6 networks as well. I don't see why sony would handicap a phone with the ability built in.

price seems a bit expensive. haven't seen any bundles yet. anybody know of any?
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2020-02-24 15:00 ]
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Hawk12
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Posted: 2020-02-24 16:06
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€1200
€370
€200
moogoo
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Posted: 2020-02-24 16:10
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they really jacked up the price this year... it's quite a different from the $950 USD last year.

seems a big excessive to me. it will be difficult for people to swallow even if they want to get a sony vs a samsung. that big price different is going to be a turn off.
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moogoo
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Posted: 2020-02-24 16:14
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On 2020-02-24 11:35:12, XperiaJunkie wrote:
Anyone know the difference between a ToF sensor and the iToF sensor found in the Xperia 1 II?



iTOF is indirect ToF vs Tof which is usually Direct ToF.

just a different implementation.

"The direct measurement of the time delay between two adjacent pulses is called direct TOF (dTOF), while if the time delay is obtained starting from the phase delay of a periodic waveform we speak of indirect TOF (iTOF)"


EDIT:
there are so many fake videos on youtube already doing camera comparisons. lol.
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blue.caesar2
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Posted: 2020-02-24 16:34
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Actually I have question for this product:

1. Does the Xperia 1 Mark II can change the display resolution on setting or it will be always 4K?
2. How much watt for USB Power Delivery for this phone? Is it still 18 watt or more?
3. Will Sony release higher watt for it is adapter in the future? Like 20 watt above.
MyP910
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Posted: 2020-02-24 16:48
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Thank you for the wireless charging....finally.
Ericsson t10, T310, P800, S600, P910, P990, SEX1, SEX10, SEXArc, XZ, XZ1
moogoo
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Posted: 2020-02-24 16:54
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myP910 - i know, right? been waiting for it!

@goldenface - are you gonna upgrade? i'm thinking yes, but man, this price is more than i was expecting..
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Posted: 2020-02-24 17:12
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Been away since z5p, how is Sony picture compression algorithm these dates? Still have the same oil painting with tons of noises? Low light OK? What's the difference between this and pro? Kind of sucks that they don't have the 100MP camera option like s20 ultra.
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Posted: 2020-02-24 17:45
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@moogoo Yeah, the price is a sticking point although the phone itself is gorgeous. I know that the compact version won't arrive for another six months at least (correct me anyone if I'm wrong) but, the spec sheet is right up there and i'm very tempted.
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Posted: 2020-02-24 17:47
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gitaroo - why don't you look at some samples online from xperia 1? there are no samples to look at for this model yet. at least not from 3rd party reviewers, but sensors are larger and more alpha involvement so it should be improved.

pro has mmwave 5G support with 360 antenna and some additional hardware features for interfacing with cameras and such. otherwise, internals and display, and camera array are the same.


@goldenface - i am too. i'm not too interested in the compact so this is definitely tempting me. i just keep looking at that price. i wonder what it will be in the US and if making it 4G for US release is true. also, when will it even be available in the US. i hope there are some good bundles. i'll take some nice headphones.. that's like $300 right there. guess we have to wait for more information and some actual reviews.
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Posted: 2020-02-24 17:56
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Camera samples by Sony Xperia 1 II
https://phandroid.com/2020/02[....]mera-samples-look-spectacular/

Xperia 1 II vs iPhone 11 Pro Camera Test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8x8QMLIK7Y

Sony Xperia 1 II vs Galaxy S20 Ultra Camera Test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXrM6y-foXo
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moogoo
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Posted: 2020-02-24 18:02
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^^

some of those youtube videos comparing with iphone and s20 ultra can't be real.

there's no way some nobody got their hands on one to take photos like that. the recombu guy said he wasn't even able to use the camera software cause it wasn't quite ready and he's the only one who's been on video with hands on.


also, the phandroid video doesn't give us anything new. those are all gallery photos from the sony website... :/
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