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Shino03
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Posted: 2020-02-28 15:15
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Agree.

This promotional video of mark II is now 1.7M views in youtube. I can't remember the last time xperia has made that many views in youtube.

https://youtu.be/EMqgyJjrY8k

Makes me think Sony is paying for views.
AFAIR, the last time Sony paid ads in youtube was on Xperia Z1.
[ This Message was edited by: Shino03 on 2020-02-28 14:16 ]
goldenface
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Posted: 2020-02-28 17:57
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Good, they need to up their marketing as this is a good phone. Funny how the 3.5mm jack, introduced in the 1950's, is the most raved about feature.

I really do hope we see a good bundle. Europe seems to get good bundles before the UK does.
moogoo
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Posted: 2020-02-28 18:17
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i feel like they should have waited for the announcement. sure, if MWC was happening then they could announce as usual. but since it was basically cancelled, they could have waited until end of march to announce. in that time they could have cleaned up a lot of the issues they must be having based on the fact that they are not giving out devices for reviewers to do hands on videos or in depth reviews of any sort. they even made the techspurt/recombu guy take his hands on review down.

i hope there are good bundles. i'm trying to compile a list of european retailers who are 1) reputable and 2) ship to the US. then i can try to figure out the best bundle for the best buck. any tips are appreciated!
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goldenface
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Posted: 2020-02-28 20:20
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Sony Mobile France had the headphone bundle last time from their eStore.
Hawk12
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Posted: 2020-02-28 21:33
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I watched like more than 10 times already.
Love this promo videos.


I am glad they realized the jack costed many sales they lost.
One of the reasons HTC has gone down the hill.

People excited with the device. 😊
Tech sites disappointed with its main rival. 😏

I know they are not going to sell 40 mi yearly again, but I hope they can at least reach 6 - 7 mi.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2020-02-28 20:34 ]
cool_sauce
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Posted: 2020-02-28 23:34
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xperiablog has some new hands on images of comparison between original 1 and mkII as well as 10 II which is also a sexy device
XperiaJunkie
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Posted: 2020-02-29 02:05
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Anyone know if the ultra wide camera has auto focus?

EDIT - Found this.
Maximum fps will depend on shooting environment and settings. Up to 20 fps continuous shooting with AF / AE is available for 24mm camera. 16mm and 70mm camera can shot up to 10 fps AF / AE.

One of the gripes GSM Arena has with the S20 Ultra is no auto focus on the ultra wide sensor so it's a 1up at least for the M II.
[ This Message was edited by: XperiaJunkie on 2020-02-29 01:19 ]
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Hawk12
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Posted: 2020-02-29 02:44
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Ultra wide seems to be imx563, used as main camera of X5.
Dual Pixel for UWA, Phase detection for "zoom".
When they said XZP had motion eye, I thought it was going to be fast like this new one.


Phone Arena was the only site that gave more than 8.1/10 to S20 Ultra.
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All them say the same: cam issues, fingerprint scanner is bad like s10+, too expensive, 120Hz kills battery.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2020-02-29 01:55 ]
moogoo
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Posted: 2020-02-29 03:38
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On 2020-02-29 02:05:21, XperiaJunkie wrote:
Anyone know if the ultra wide camera has auto focus?

EDIT - Found this.
Maximum fps will depend on shooting environment and settings. Up to 20 fps continuous shooting with AF / AE is available for 24mm camera. 16mm and 70mm camera can shot up to 10 fps AF / AE.

One of the gripes GSM Arena has with the S20 Ultra is no auto focus on the ultra wide sensor so it's a 1up at least for the M II.
[ This Message was edited by: XperiaJunkie on 2020-02-29 01:19 ]



yea it's exciting to know even the UW has 10fps AF/AE. that's amazing to have in a cell phone. i can't wait for the hands on and reviews. a good bundle is all it takes for me to order this bad boy. right now i'm saving up cash. stupid corona virus is killing my porfolio though!

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Posted: 2020-02-29 03:58
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On 2020-02-29 02:44:12, Hawk12 wrote:

Phone Arena was the only site that gave more than 8.1/10 to S20 Ultra.
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All them say the same: cam issues, fingerprint scanner is bad like s10+, too expensive, 120Hz kills battery.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2020-02-29 01:55 ]



The camera and fingerprint issues (my s10+ unlocks instantly, Note 10+ is slightly worse) I get but the price? Of course it's expensive, it's their flagship device. Still cheaper than their closest competitor in Apple (pro Max).

And do rememeber there's 3x s20 variants, no one is forcing you to buy the most expensive one, the other 2 are still very much flagship devices. It's unfortunate phone prices are like this but thank Apple (mainly) for that. Even the Chinese manufacturers are gradually increasing their prices.

The rumoured pricing for the Xperia 1 II is also, you guessed it, expensive..... Sony's flagships have seen higher prices with the last couple of launches.
Samsung will have no problems selling tonnes of ultras at their asking price. The Sony? No where near as many especially at such price point. People (mass markets) don't pay prices like that for a xperia. Of course I'd love for it to be different but unfortunately it's not. End of the day these are all businesses, they care about more profit.

Regarding 120hz draining the battery quicker. Ah, like this wasn't to be expected. It's clearly going to use more battery, but the trade off is worth it imo. I've had ample time with the full s20 range and high refresh screens are fantastic and can't wait til it's more mainstream in phones. Simple as that.

There's no need to bash Samsung or other brands for that matter just for the sake of it.

Any who, back to the 1 II. Surely they could have gotten some proper hands on previews up by now, at least some legitimate camera samples.
[ This Message was edited by: >500 on 2020-02-29 03:06 ]
tai020381
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Posted: 2020-02-29 04:36
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In this video he stated Sony told him to remove it first... Likely they do not want other companies to copy their moves.

https://youtu.be/rNloaS_WYEc
moogoo
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Posted: 2020-02-29 05:16
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@500 just ignore hawk. He's no better than the Samsung fanboys coming to bash Sony phones here. He's doing the same to Samsung as if Sony is doing so much better. Everyone's got problems. Simple as that. Already asked him to chill ok the Samsung trolling but he's obviously not able to control himself.

No hands on yet makes me think there are issues to be ironed out. Even in the hands on video that has since been taken down, he said he was unable to utilize the camera software because it wasn't ready. That's probably the main reason Sony asked him to take it down. Also , possibly so they didn't seem like they were playing favorites with media outlets.

@tai - what could the be copying from the video? All the specs are public now.
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Lonewolf223
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Posted: 2020-02-29 06:42
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Is dvs gone or still there?

And about phone arena, just a useless site and nothing else. Phonearena is full of apple fanboys and there reviews are full of shit

The highest rated phones in Phonearena are apple phones 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The biggest joke in phonearena is the pros and cons section

The new isp in sd865 is able to handle 960fps videos right
So why did sony omit it?
It was a feature bought into the mainstream by sony hope they bring it back
McKinley
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Posted: 2020-02-29 10:14
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On 2020-02-29 02:05:21, XperiaJunkie wrote:
Anyone know if the ultra wide camera has auto focus?

EDIT - Found this.
Maximum fps will depend on shooting environment and settings. Up to 20 fps continuous shooting with AF / AE is available for 24mm camera. 16mm and 70mm camera can shot up to 10 fps AF / AE.

One of the gripes GSM Arena has with the S20 Ultra is no auto focus on the ultra wide sensor so it's a 1up at least for the M II.
[ This Message was edited by: XperiaJunkie on 2020-02-29 01:19 ]



Usually it works like this with continuous shooting. Sunny days yield maximum shots, whereas night photography can half the amount of it.
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Posted: 2020-02-29 11:56
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X1 was $950. Phone had issues with FPS, cam software was not complete with few bugs, no jack and small battery (but lasts more than expected). It should not have all these issues.

€1400 is too expensive, no matter brand.
But it cant have all those issues. There is no excuse.
Look at the budget of Samsung Mobile, phone should be the best ever without too many issues.
Not just PhoneArena, all other are giving less score all thought it was going to get.

If 1 ii is indeed €1200 and get 7/10 from tech sites, it will be no excuse too.
Unacceptable....
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