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sidneylopsides
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Posted: 2019-12-04 14:21
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On 2019-12-04 12:13:58, Hawk12 wrote:
More brands started to use side FPS.
Exactly same buttom of XZP. Even the way frame is cut.

Since new phone is said to be thicker, I hope they use the older button of XZ.
Also hope ToF is not just for bokeh, would be silly.
ToF can do other stuff.




What else can you do with ToF?


Edit: I guess that lighting effect stuff where you remove the background too?
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Hawk12
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Posted: 2019-12-04 14:38
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It can help improving AF system, depth for AR effects also better Face ID.
Putting just for bokeh like all do , would be waste of space and money.
tai020381
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Posted: 2019-12-04 15:54
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On 2019-12-04 12:08:55, profyler wrote:

On 2019-12-04 02:35:50, tai020381 wrote:

On 2019-12-04 00:07:19, profyler wrote:

On 2019-12-03 23:00:06, Luca-S wrote:
So...
What is the point of being on a fan site of a particular manufacturer if you hate it or think it's rubbish?
In the last ten pages some of you have used almost every line to criticize Sony about anything and everything...

Why not just walk away and let those who like the brand discuss issues related to it?
What do you think of opening a topic just to criticize and badmouth this "evil for technological humanity" that is Sony?
It can do good to your fragile ego, which needs to displease others to feel relevant.




Lol you're exactly the fanboy we're refering to.

This is a site that still alows people to criticise a brand whatever it is. If its good its good and people talk about it, if its bad we're going to talk about it too. And there is no absurd on it since Several reviews already talk about Sony phones on several websites stating what is Sony doing, but you fanboys are always DXO, gsmarena, phonearena is biased mumbo jumbo nonsense conspiracy agains the poor Sony.

I still come here because im alowed to it, i like to see the news and rumours from a brand that i've been loyal almost for 15 years.
Jesus Christ, open your head, we all wish Sony get along with the top competition but being blind is just nonsense fanboy thinking.



Loyal for the past 15 years with 43 posts. Yeah I believe you.

We do our homework too you know. What you mentioned about Dxo and phonearena and gsmarena we did all discussion and shared our experiences and gathered information and read their comments like you too. Our EXPERIENCES and discussions came up with conclusions. We can see and read like you too you know.

For your 43 posts for the past 15 years? I'm sorry but you are just not trustworthy at all. Nothing to prove that you are loyal at all.



Well, I dont have to prove shit for you. The reason why I dont write that much (its 99 Post, not 43 by the way) is because I like to read rumors instead of writing nonsense like you just did, sweetheart.
[ This Message was edited by: profyler on 2019-12-04 11:14 ]



Yeah and thats exactly the information you provided are not trustworthy at all. Simply because you have nothing to discuss. I like to read rumors too. And our posts were mostly with links and, like how you post nonsense from the start, thats how I replied your post. Nonsense.
[ This Message was edited by: tai020381 on 2019-12-04 15:01 ]
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Posted: 2019-12-04 16:02
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I'll put this tof video here. For those who haven't seen it yet. https://youtu.be/kWrUKx_EcOY

Also there was 3d scanning which created a map in about 1 minute without tof. This would help it do this instantly or more accurately.

The rumored resolution of Sony's tof is 0.5mp, Samsung had 0.3
This might also mean more accuracy or fine tuned effects.
Hawk12
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Posted: 2019-12-04 16:43
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Is it true SD865 does 8K30?

profyler
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Posted: 2019-12-04 16:52
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On 2019-12-04 15:54:10, tai020381 wrote:

On 2019-12-04 12:08:55, profyler wrote:

On 2019-12-04 02:35:50, tai020381 wrote:

On 2019-12-04 00:07:19, profyler wrote:

On 2019-12-03 23:00:06, Luca-S wrote:
So...
What is the point of being on a fan site of a particular manufacturer if you hate it or think it's rubbish?
In the last ten pages some of you have used almost every line to criticize Sony about anything and everything...

Why not just walk away and let those who like the brand discuss issues related to it?
What do you think of opening a topic just to criticize and badmouth this "evil for technological humanity" that is Sony?
It can do good to your fragile ego, which needs to displease others to feel relevant.




Lol you're exactly the fanboy we're refering to.

This is a site that still alows people to criticise a brand whatever it is. If its good its good and people talk about it, if its bad we're going to talk about it too. And there is no absurd on it since Several reviews already talk about Sony phones on several websites stating what is Sony doing, but you fanboys are always DXO, gsmarena, phonearena is biased mumbo jumbo nonsense conspiracy agains the poor Sony.

I still come here because im alowed to it, i like to see the news and rumours from a brand that i've been loyal almost for 15 years.
Jesus Christ, open your head, we all wish Sony get along with the top competition but being blind is just nonsense fanboy thinking.



Loyal for the past 15 years with 43 posts. Yeah I believe you.

We do our homework too you know. What you mentioned about Dxo and phonearena and gsmarena we did all discussion and shared our experiences and gathered information and read their comments like you too. Our EXPERIENCES and discussions came up with conclusions. We can see and read like you too you know.

For your 43 posts for the past 15 years? I'm sorry but you are just not trustworthy at all. Nothing to prove that you are loyal at all.



Well, I dont have to prove shit for you. The reason why I dont write that much (its 99 Post, not 43 by the way) is because I like to read rumors instead of writing nonsense like you just did, sweetheart.
[ This Message was edited by: profyler on 2019-12-04 11:14 ]



Yeah and thats exactly the information you provided are not trustworthy at all. Simply because you have nothing to discuss. I like to read rumors too. And our posts were mostly with links and, like how you post nonsense from the start, thats how I replied your post. Nonsense.
[ This Message was edited by: tai020381 on 2019-12-04 15:01 ]



Whatever suits you, fanboy
tai020381
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Posted: 2019-12-04 17:49
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On 2019-12-04 16:52:28, profyler wrote:

On 2019-12-04 15:54:10, tai020381 wrote:

On 2019-12-04 12:08:55, profyler wrote:

On 2019-12-04 02:35:50, tai020381 wrote:

On 2019-12-04 00:07:19, profyler wrote:

On 2019-12-03 23:00:06, Luca-S wrote:
So...
What is the point of being on a fan site of a particular manufacturer if you hate it or think it's rubbish?
In the last ten pages some of you have used almost every line to criticize Sony about anything and everything...

Why not just walk away and let those who like the brand discuss issues related to it?
What do you think of opening a topic just to criticize and badmouth this "evil for technological humanity" that is Sony?
It can do good to your fragile ego, which needs to displease others to feel relevant.




Lol you're exactly the fanboy we're refering to.

This is a site that still alows people to criticise a brand whatever it is. If its good its good and people talk about it, if its bad we're going to talk about it too. And there is no absurd on it since Several reviews already talk about Sony phones on several websites stating what is Sony doing, but you fanboys are always DXO, gsmarena, phonearena is biased mumbo jumbo nonsense conspiracy agains the poor Sony.

I still come here because im alowed to it, i like to see the news and rumours from a brand that i've been loyal almost for 15 years.
Jesus Christ, open your head, we all wish Sony get along with the top competition but being blind is just nonsense fanboy thinking.



Loyal for the past 15 years with 43 posts. Yeah I believe you.

We do our homework too you know. What you mentioned about Dxo and phonearena and gsmarena we did all discussion and shared our experiences and gathered information and read their comments like you too. Our EXPERIENCES and discussions came up with conclusions. We can see and read like you too you know.

For your 43 posts for the past 15 years? I'm sorry but you are just not trustworthy at all. Nothing to prove that you are loyal at all.



Well, I dont have to prove shit for you. The reason why I dont write that much (its 99 Post, not 43 by the way) is because I like to read rumors instead of writing nonsense like you just did, sweetheart.
[ This Message was edited by: profyler on 2019-12-04 11:14 ]



Yeah and thats exactly the information you provided are not trustworthy at all. Simply because you have nothing to discuss. I like to read rumors too. And our posts were mostly with links and, like how you post nonsense from the start, thats how I replied your post. Nonsense.
[ This Message was edited by: tai020381 on 2019-12-04 15:01 ]



Whatever suits you, fanboy



Of course it suits us fan boys. And BTW this reply of yours is uninformative and totally unnecessary. Again nonsense.
Luca-S
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Posted: 2019-12-04 18:57
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On 2019-12-04 13:52:31, profyler wrote:

I replied to your comment wich has nothing to do with rumors



I replied to your behavior in the last comments.
How old are you? 15?
Are you nervous?
Hawk12
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Posted: 2019-12-04 19:16
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SD865

- up to 16GB ddr5
- 8K30 HDR recording
- 4K screen at 60Hz ( weird since xperia premium does it already)
- single cam of 200MP


https://androidnext.info/?p=810

It says flagship to use the optical sided-FPS they patented.
Current is said to be electrostatic.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-12-04 18:26 ]
sidneylopsides
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Posted: 2019-12-04 20:27
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- 4K screen at 60Hz ( weird since xperia premium does it already)


I'm sure I read that the 1 screen uses two display outputs combined, so this probably means a single display output up to 4k60.
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Posted: 2019-12-04 20:51
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Specifically, the Snapdragon 865 can handle up to two gigapixels of data per second, thanks in part to its dual 14-bit ISPs. This means that the Snapdragon 865 will be able to handle captures of up to 200 megapixels as well as dual megapixel camera shots with zero shutter delay and HEIC photo capture. It can also apply real-time multi-frame noise reduction, as well as provide real-time object sorting, segmentation, and replacement in images, thanks to its fifth-generation Qualcomm AI Engine. This new technology will 'quickly and intelligently identify different backgrounds, people and objects so that they can be individually treated for a truly personalized photo,' according to Qualcomm.

The Snapdragon 865 chipset is also a big boost for mobile video. In addition to 8K video capture, the chipset also supports 4K HDR (HDR10 +, HDR10, HLG and Dolby Vision), 120fps 4K video and 4K video capture, while simultaneously capturing a 640 megapixel five-shot sequence. This makes it the first chipset to capture Dobly Vision video in real time, and in addition to capturing video at 120fps, the chipset can also play video at 120fps in real time when combined with a 120Hz display, such as those found on Razer Phone, Razer Phone 2, Sharp Aquos R3 Smartphones and Asus ROG Phone II.

  Qualcomm also addressed high speed capture. Snapdragon 865 can capture 720p video at 960fps without limits. 720p video at 960fps is not new, as the Sony Xperia XZ and more than a dozen other smartphones from Sony, Samsung, Huawei, Sony and Xiaomi can attest, but today's devices are limited to capturing just a few seconds at a time. When paired with the proper hardware, the Snapdragon 865 chipset can record 960fps videos indefinitely; or at least until it runs out of storage.


All a phone needs are : sensor that can do 4K120 and 8K + heat management beyond excellent. But no sensor for cellphone can do 8K so far. Isocell 108MP does 6K according to Samsung.
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profyler
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Posted: 2019-12-04 21:56
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On 2019-12-04 17:49:02, tai020381 wrote:

Lol you're exactly the fanboy we're refering to.

This is a site that still alows people to criticise a brand whatever it is. If its good its good and people talk about it, if its bad we're going to talk about it too. And there is no absurd on it since Several reviews already talk about Sony phones on several websites stating what is Sony doing, but you fanboys are always DXO, gsmarena, phonearena is biased mumbo jumbo nonsense conspiracy agains the poor Sony.

I still come here because im alowed to it, i like to see the news and rumours from a brand that i've been loyal almost for 15 years.
Jesus Christ, open your head, we all wish Sony get along with the top competition but being blind is just nonsense fanboy thinking.



OK fanboy.
[ This Message was edited by: profyler on 2019-12-04 20:59 ]
profyler
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Posted: 2019-12-04 22:00
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On 2019-12-04 18:57:34, Luca-S wrote:

On 2019-12-04 13:52:31, profyler wrote:

I replied to your comment wich has nothing to do with rumors



I replied to your behavior in the last comments.
How old are you? 15?



not really, newbie.
moogoo
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Posted: 2019-12-04 22:23
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ok kids. take it to private messages or something and stop polluting the thread.

if you have legitimate criticisms you want to LEGITIMATELY discuss, feel free. but if you're here to just insult people who are fans of sony, then just save it. do you really have nothing else to do?

anyway - back to rumors..

has there been any other concrete information about the 2020 flagship to be announced at MWC?

I think the Xperia 1 is a great device but there are things they can improve on, which I won't go into length here. But if they can improve on the Xperia 1 and price the phone reasonably, I'd be on board to upgrade.

I'm looking for a phone I can use for some fun videography, so the cinemapro really interests me. if the 6 camera phone is legit and they are able to utilize the 6 different cameras to improve still images and provide extra flexibility and options for videos, that'd be perfect.

hope it's true and hope it's done right.
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Hawk12
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I have no idea what they are up to.
But I would guess if X0 is real that it would have different FLs, not Nokia 9 combo.

I think many brands will bet at for example 0.6x + 1x + 2x + 5x + ToF.
2x for bokeh and 5x periscope to get more zoom score on dxo test.


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