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Hawk12
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Posted: 2019-11-24 15:02
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Posted on reddit

https://sumahoinfo.com/?p=36264

The circle is much bigger than old nokias.
This draw looks 1" to me.
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On 2019-11-07 15:53:12, Ppl wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/user/Brown_sugar_hop/comments

This guy says Sony will make a midrange compact also X1 successor will have 3+1 cameras, one will be huge the other could be just a sensor (tof most likely)


Same guy I posted about a while ago. This was the exact same comment. Now he deleted this one too. Either he's a deliberate leaker of Sony or just playing around.
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Posted: 2019-11-24 19:01
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Can someone post this pic.
It was posted on reddit.
https://i0.wp.com/sumahoinfo.[....]Renamed_by_IWS.jpg?w=800&ssl=1
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Posted: 2019-11-25 07:29
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On 2019-11-24 19:01:56, Hawk12 wrote:
Can someone post this pic.
It was posted on reddit.
https://i0.wp.com/sumahoinfo.[....]Renamed_by_IWS.jpg?w=800&ssl=1
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Could there be 1 huge camera lense paired with Xenon flash?
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Posted: 2019-11-25 14:21
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xenon flash will never make a comeback considering how good sensors are now with lowlight these days. it's just not worth the space in the phone to put a giant xenon flash - let alone the battery capacity to fire the flash.

if real - i would love it to be a large lens with amazing optics and video recording.
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Posted: 2019-11-25 14:28
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Is Xperia bringing 1" sensor?

I know Nodar is wrong most of the times.
But he said Sony was going to announce sensors of size 1/1.7", 1/1.5" and 1".

1) The imx686 seems to be 1/1.7". Like that 64MP isocell.

2) Someone posted on exmor wiki page imx690. Only info there is 96MP. So I suspect it is 1/1.5" quadbayer.

The sketch posted on reddit. Person says it was done on info given to him.
There is a huge circle there.
Really huge.

Checking the sketch , I have found proportionally that circle would be almost 18mm for a 16.7 cm phone (size of X1).
1" has diagonal of 15,86 mm. Then add OIS.

My phone has 7.87mm sensor. External circle has 8mm.


Opinions please !!!!!
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Posted: 2019-11-26 17:47
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In a recent interview a Sony executive said they want to bring SLR Camera quality to mobile business. And taking into account that Sony mobile will be merged with Sony electronics and that their sensor business is making a hell of a profit and that OEMs demand for bigger sensors is growing (Like Mi Note 10 sensors and successors), I would say that it is possible to see an 1" (>100MP) sensor sometime next year.

Beside that I can't imagine Sony to lose the sensor battle to Samsung which their quite strong growing isocell sensors. Especially knowing how bad Sony mobile is doing and the only 2 money making Sony departments are PlayStation and mobile Imaging sensors.

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Posted: 2019-11-26 19:17
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It needs to be Sony exclusive to bring in sales.
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Interesting. They want to bring professional quality to xperia, but put worse hardware than previous years.
That is ๐Ÿค”....


Did you guys see how disgusting s11+ render looks?
Rear panel is way worse than pixel 4 or iphone 11 max.
It is dominoes piece.
๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
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On 2019-11-26 17:47:03, JohnnyNr.5 wrote:
In a recent interview a Sony executive said they want to bring SLR Camera quality to mobile business.



I'd like to read the article. mind sharing the link?
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Posted: 2019-11-26 20:04
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On 2019-11-26 19:36:05, RacSony wrote:

On 2019-11-26 17:47:03, JohnnyNr.5 wrote:
In a recent interview a Sony executive said they want to bring SLR Camera quality to mobile business.



I'd like to read the article. mind sharing the link?






"Sony Corporation recently held a press conference in China. During the event, the head of Sonyโ€™s imaging and sensing solutions business had cause to throw some light into the companyโ€™s operations."



Original source in Chinese
https://tech.sina.cn/mobile/x[....]ihnzahi3118730.d.html?from=wap

And in English from gizmochina
https://www.gizmochina.com/20[....]-catch-up-with-dslrs-official/
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According to this , a 108MP may not exist.
Considering that very high resolution is worse for videos.
More rulling shutter, slower data readout etc ....

I think 96 will be ceiling made by Sony.

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Posted: 2019-11-27 09:48
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On 2019-11-26 19:22:32, Hawk12 wrote:
Interesting. They want to bring professional quality to xperia, but put worse hardware than previous years.
That is ๐Ÿค”....


Did you guys see how disgusting s11+ render looks?
Rear panel is way worse than pixel 4 or iphone 11 max.
It is dominoes piece.
๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-11-26 18:33 ]



XD
The comment means they will lead smartphone's photography into another level by building advanced CMOS.
And it will be used by Samsung or huawei or Apple .
As for SOMC?
You must be kidding me.
Stop dreaming, SOMC is trash , OK?
Money can control everything.
Somc can't use any of new technology even though u a r part of sony
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Posted: 2019-11-27 11:55
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Money would have told Sony to sell Mobile already.
Still have not....
Stacked cmos made its way to mobile before full frame.

RX100 will be dead in few years.
They can keep part of this money by selling more phones.
Better letting cybershot be killed by xperia, than other phones.

People used to have ipods, now they use iphone for that....


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Posted: 2019-11-27 12:26
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On 2019-11-27 11:55:55, Hawk12 wrote:
Money would have told Sony to sell Mobile already.
Still have not....
Stacked cmos made its way to mobile before full frame.

RX100 will be dead in few years.
They can keep part of this money by selling more phones.
Better letting cybershot be killed by xperia, than other phones.

People used to have ipods, now they use iphone for that....



Correct, but Sony needs smartphone to control the entrance of every electronic devices.They've told us too many times.
They keep it but won't give it too much support.
Typical cost down company, typical Wall Street style.
Actually, if u want to order a custom CMOS which advancer than anyone, u need to sell at about 20million units at least, understand?
Huawei--apple--samsung
Only them could do it.
In fact, Huawei is the only alpha class client
Nobody can compete with it even Samsung or Apple.
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