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Sony Xperia Rumours 2019 |
tonylcc
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On 2019-05-09 16:06:28, Ppl wrote:
On 2019-05-09 15:41:41, tonylcc wrote:
I guess all those months spoiler-ing Avengers should be enough 
Thanks for messing timeline
oh yeah btw, my memory is a mess, which makes me forgot when i said about 5K device and I know nothing about the upcoming phone in IFA, except i can barely remember it is something enhance a bit from "something" and it is probably a regular flagship.
Love all Xperia Lover 3000    it is not related to any phone 
Dont tell me i am a spoiler, it is like weeks away from the premiere.
[ This Message was edited by: tonylcc on 2019-05-09 14:51 ]
Well, I can barely understand this message, all I can get from this is that ifa phones will be the regular (not premium, so not a successor) and it will only improve something from 1 which I believe will be either design or camera.
Also 5k one is not related to 1, but a new series? Like foldable? Or 5g?
What's lover 3000 sounds like a sex bot
for "3000", you will understand if you watched Avengers 4 or anything related to it
for other stuff i dont remember anymore
Errr.....Who am I?  |
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blackzeros
Joined: Jul 21, 2015
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it should be next big thing aka ai vibrator |
Hawk12
Joined: Nov 29, 2018
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Let's suppose Sony Imaging creates a WRGB sensor for Xperia.
Let's suppose it has 48MP.
12W + 12R + 12G + 12B.
All them at least 1,10 micron.
Would be enough to replace mono/Aube? |
Ppl
Joined: Mar 04, 2018
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On 2019-05-09 16:13:45, tonylcc wrote:
On 2019-05-09 16:06:28, Ppl wrote:
On 2019-05-09 15:41:41, tonylcc wrote:
I guess all those months spoiler-ing Avengers should be enough
Thanks for messing timeline
oh yeah btw, my memory is a mess, which makes me forgot when i said about 5K device and I know nothing about the upcoming phone in IFA, except i can barely remember it is something enhance a bit from "something" and it is probably a regular flagship.
Love all Xperia Lover 3000 it is not related to any phone
Dont tell me i am a spoiler, it is like weeks away from the premiere.
[ This Message was edited by: tonylcc on 2019-05-09 14:51 ]
Well, I can barely understand this message, all I can get from this is that ifa phones will be the regular (not premium, so not a successor) and it will only improve something from 1 which I believe will be either design or camera.
Also 5k one is not related to 1, but a new series? Like foldable? Or 5g?
What's lover 3000 sounds like a sex bot
for "3000", you will understand if you watched Avengers 4 or anything related to it
for other stuff i dont remember anymore
Errr.....Who am I?
Haven't watched end game yet. Don't think I will. *shrug* |
Ppl
Joined: Mar 04, 2018
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On 2019-05-09 22:40:04, Hawk12 wrote:
Let's suppose Sony Imaging creates a WRGB sensor for Xperia.
Let's suppose it has 48MP.
12W + 12R + 12G + 12B.
All them at least 1,10 micron.
Would be enough to replace mono/Aube?
Gsmarena posted a Samsung 64mp sensor, this to me proves there is a 66mp from Sony. The imx600 diagram showed 50% white. The Bayer filter does not have rgb for every pixel. |
tonylcc
Joined: May 21, 2017
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Is QuadBayer useful at all?
If so, does it really increase quality a lot? |
Hawk12
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According to all I know:
Let's say a Quadbayer sensor after binning has 12MP/1.22 micron.
Sony says it can perform better than a native 12MP/1.22m sensor.
There are photographers that doubt it.
But it wont give you more details than a 12MP sensor.
It is not downsampling that keeps quality but smaller file.
Like Z3 ..
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-05-10 10:58 ] |
Ppl
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On 2019-05-10 08:07:39, tonylcc wrote:
Is QuadBayer useful at all?
If so, does it really increase quality a lot?
Since Huawei uses them and they come at top on dxo lists, there's a general belief that it comes from quad Bayer. But it also has a very large sensor and now ois. Also Pixel 3, iPhone Xs, galaxy S10 don't have quad Bayer but have great DR. So if Sony can deliver good dynamic range without one it's awesome. It's just easier for a qbayer to output better dr at the one frame.
Curved sensors will be a greater leap forward imo. Any news on that?
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Hawk12
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I agree with PPl.
Samsung copied imx400, then copied imx586.
So this isocell must be the copy of 666.
I hope it's not Quadbayer.
I want wrgb with option to downsample to 16 or 20.
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tonylcc
Joined: May 21, 2017
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On 2019-05-10 11:58:07, Ppl wrote:
On 2019-05-10 08:07:39, tonylcc wrote:
Is QuadBayer useful at all?
If so, does it really increase quality a lot?
Since Huawei uses them and they come at top on dxo lists, there's a general belief that it comes from quad Bayer. But it also has a very large sensor and now ois. Also Pixel 3, iPhone Xs, galaxy S10 don't have quad Bayer but have great DR. So if Sony can deliver good dynamic range without one it's awesome. It's just easier for a qbayer to output better dr at the one frame.
Curved sensors will be a greater leap forward imo. Any news on that?
speaking of dxomark, you cant just look at the big score
Look at zoom and bokeh, it is a score that a phone having more lens to get extra score, nothing to do with the actual image quality
there's only exposure, color, autofocus, texture, noise and artifacts score should count in it.
one more reason for Huawei got high score, it is not because of Quadbayer, it is because of its big CMOS
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runtome71
Joined: Jan 03, 2018
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introduction february
now may
4 months to September
xperia 1 will be released when
sony very funny |
Hawk12
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I think it is next week.
With docomo midrange.
Midrange is SO-03L
https://sumahoinfo.com/post-32176
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Ppl
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On 2019-05-10 13:27:54, tonylcc wrote:
On 2019-05-10 11:58:07, Ppl wrote:
On 2019-05-10 08:07:39, tonylcc wrote:
Is QuadBayer useful at all?
If so, does it really increase quality a lot?
Since Huawei uses them and they come at top on dxo lists, there's a general belief that it comes from quad Bayer. But it also has a very large sensor and now ois. Also Pixel 3, iPhone Xs, galaxy S10 don't have quad Bayer but have great DR. So if Sony can deliver good dynamic range without one it's awesome. It's just easier for a qbayer to output better dr at the one frame.
Curved sensors will be a greater leap forward imo. Any news on that?
speaking of dxomark, you cant just look at the big score
Look at zoom and bokeh, it is a score that a phone having more lens to get extra score, nothing to do with the actual image quality
there's only exposure, color, autofocus, texture, noise and artifacts score should count in it.
one more reason for Huawei got high score, it is not because of Quadbayer, it is because of its big CMOS
Yeah, like I said as long as it is comparable to the top contenders nobody would complain. When there's computational photography, lines get blurred on how hw affects things.
Quad Bayer or not a 1/1.5 inch sensor would be great.
Xperia used to have sensors exclusive to Sony mobile, is that era over? |
Hawk12
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Main cam of 1 is exmor stacked. Not same of Samsung.
Bit smaller. I still bet it is cost cutting.
Of course newer sensor can perform better, but when it has similar specs.
They should have kept imx300 or used imx400 for midranges, no matter if 10+ would need smaller secondary like 8MP 1/4".
Every reviewer noticed the difference of 10 and 10+.
White balance is very different (pretty wrong on 10).
10+ has more details and less noise.
I still think XA2+ beat both easily for photos.
Even at 23MP. |
badassmam
Joined: Nov 07, 2007
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It's May and there's still no Xperia 1, how many are they planning to sell now that everyone has their Samsung or Huawei? Less than 1 million sales, wait and see. Stupid incompetent people killed what was a great phone manufacturer. Sell Xperia to Google and then sod off. |
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