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yuunanase
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Yes, I am looking forward to the Beijing event. So far, there had not been any samples of the XZ2P's camera other than the official photos and videos. I would really like to see the camera in action in real life situations, if its really enough to compensate the lack of OIS.
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rraz9228
Joined: Oct 30, 2003
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From: CA USA
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If the camera is as good as promised, even with all the flows, this is my next phone. I can't wait for IFA as my Z5P needs replacement yesterday. I would have gotten the XZP few months ago if I weren't waiting for what's next. Otherwise, if the camera is not that good, I will settle for XZP and save my money for the next one. |
vivftp
Joined: Mar 10, 2012
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2.5 hours until the Beijing event. Hopefully we'll get some answers about the quality of the camera there. I'd love to stay awake for it, but the event goes from 2:00am to 5:00am for me, so I'll probably be asleep. |
AlvinZahranM
Joined: Apr 06, 2015
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So, after that, the promo videos will be uploaded, not unlisted like right now?
Daily Drivers: Galaxy S23 Ultra, Galaxy S22 Ultra, and iPhone 14 Pro Max
Secondary: vivo X80 Pro
Still using as a backup: Xperia XZ2
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spektykles
Joined: Dec 18, 2017
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Actually the monochrome sensor of XZ2P isnt exactly IMX380 but an specialized version for it. It also come with PDAF and built-in EIS on the sensor like the main IMX400 one.
And the real maximum ISO value of both sensors are much higher, very high, 51.200 just an maximum "official" number that can be used without any great quality degration effect. U can expect over 150.000 ISO if Sony unlocked it....Huawei come with 102.400 ISO simply because they are confident to control the noise from it...also spec bragging right...
[ This Message was edited by: spektykles on 2018-04-17 06:16 ] |
ADIDA
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this year true flagship is ULTRA.... by insider... |
vivftp
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On 2018-04-17 07:15:48, spektykles wrote:
Actually the monochrome sensor of XZ2P isnt exactly IMX380 but an specialized version for it. It also come with PDAF and built-in EIS on the sensor like the main IMX400 one.
And the real maximum ISO value of both sensors are much higher, very high, 51.200 just an maximum "official" number that can be used without any great quality degration effect. U can expect over 150.000 ISO if Sony unlocked it....Huawei come with 102.400 ISO simply because they are confident to control the noise from it...also spec bragging right...
[ This Message was edited by: spektykles on 2018-04-17 06:16 ]
I suspected that was the case. It would make no sense for Sony to advertise the maximum possible iso of the sensors yet still claim it will produce a noise free image.
Haven't heard anything about this Beijing event, and if I'm not mistaken it was supposed to start over an hour ago. Was info on the event false?
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AlvinZahranM
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On 2018-04-17 07:18:41, ADIDA wrote:
this year true flagship is ULTRA.... by insider...
Wow! My insider also said that this year, the true flagship Xperia XZ3 Pro Ultra Ultimate will have 7" 8K display, with 200% stbr. True XR5 insider info.
Daily Drivers: Galaxy S23 Ultra, Galaxy S22 Ultra, and iPhone 14 Pro Max
Secondary: vivo X80 Pro
Still using as a backup: Xperia XZ2
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blackzeros
Joined: Jul 21, 2015
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lol this is not even my final form, xperia xz ultra instict  |
spektykles
Joined: Dec 18, 2017
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On 2018-04-17 07:21:49, vivftp wrote:
On 2018-04-17 07:15:48, spektykles wrote:
Actually the monochrome sensor of XZ2P isnt exactly IMX380 but an specialized version for it. It also come with PDAF and built-in EIS on the sensor like the main IMX400 one.
And the real maximum ISO value of both sensors are much higher, very high, 51.200 just an maximum "official" number that can be used without any great quality degration effect. U can expect over 150.000 ISO if Sony unlocked it....Huawei come with 102.400 ISO simply because they are confident to control the noise from it...also spec bragging right...
[ This Message was edited by: spektykles on 2018-04-17 06:16 ]
I suspected that was the case. It would make no sense for Sony to advertise the maximum possible iso of the sensors yet still claim it will produce a noise free image.
Haven't heard anything about this Beijing event, and if I'm not mistaken it was supposed to start over an hour ago. Was info on the event false?
[ This Message was edited by: vivftp on 2018-04-17 06:22 ]
That was the case. The IMX220 and IMX300 in the past were able to achieve 25600 ISO when using non-Sony software..... |
ADIDA
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On 2018-04-17 07:21:56, AlvinZahranM wrote:
On 2018-04-17 07:18:41, ADIDA wrote:
this year true flagship is ULTRA.... by insider...
Wow! My insider also said that this year, the true flagship Xperia XZ3 Pro Ultra Ultimate will have 7" 8K display, with 200% stbr. True XR5 insider info.
ha ha ha ha 
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vivftp
Joined: Mar 10, 2012
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Well let's take a look here, with the XZ2 family it seems Sony has addressed all major complaints about their phones except for 2 points - bezels and the removal of the headphone jack. I wonder if they will try to address those complaints in the ifa devices, or if they'll even be able to, or if those product designs are already locked in |
spektykles
Joined: Dec 18, 2017
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On 2018-04-16 13:41:25, Ppl wrote:
On 2018-04-16 13:33:05, spektykles wrote:
So you all happy with this "Plan B"?
You mentioned the Plan B's design change was mostly on the front. I don't see any change except aspect ratio. Was the apect ratio only thing the upper management didn't like? Because it's not the display's aspect ratio that makes this design bad imo. You seem to like this new design language, may I ask why?
The aspect ratio is the only thing visible enough for u to see...Hint: check the side frame....
LOL, ppl doesnt believe me when I said I held the premium and took the screenshot.....
Kay, what ever u believing.... |
spektykles
Joined: Dec 18, 2017
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And for correction, SDM845 can push DCI 4K HDR (10 bit) (folks, this is the true term for this, not 4K+)
And XZ2P now using 8 bit + FRC display (S9 are 8 bit) (8bit + FRC are better than 8bit) (due to no "real" mobile LCD right now can be true 10bit). But that might change with OLED...
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blackzeros
Joined: Jul 21, 2015
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On 2018-04-17 07:32:18, spektykles wrote:
On 2018-04-16 13:41:25, Ppl wrote:
On 2018-04-16 13:33:05, spektykles wrote:
So you all happy with this "Plan B"?
You mentioned the Plan B's design change was mostly on the front. I don't see any change except aspect ratio. Was the apect ratio only thing the upper management didn't like? Because it's not the display's aspect ratio that makes this design bad imo. You seem to like this new design language, may I ask why?
The aspect ratio is the only thing visible enough for u to see...Hint: check the side frame....
LOL, ppl doesnt believe me when I said I held the premium and took the screenshot.....
Kay, what ever u believing....
did u use camera, can you compare it to p20 pro, s9 or xz2?
theorically 1.55 um monochrome pixels with f1.6 could become most sensitive pixel to light ever used in a mobile phone(except panasonic phone with 1 inch sensor) |
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