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Sony Xperia Rumours 2018 |
nikola1970
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But how others like Samsung, Apple, Huawei manage to pack bigger sensors into even slimmer bazel? | |
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spektykles
Joined: Dec 18, 2017
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Simple, they cut the features of the camera module down. The XZ1 front camera is some phone's back camera with 6 lens element design....
While others are slim but has a plastic housing, 1-2 lens design and less feature like autofocus...
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astider
Joined: Jan 21, 2018
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also, Sony is probably only one using wide angle both front and rear camera for the flagships, no wonder why the module is big |
blackzeros
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t5oVsxUG2w&t
i doubt if they can fit a 8mp sensor, 1/4" sensor shouldnt be that much bigger then current sensor.
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spektykles
Joined: Dec 18, 2017
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If u want some spec to confirm the XZ1 front camera is some phone back camera, then here is it:
IMX278, f/2.0 lens, made by LG Innotek and Samsung Electro-Mechanics customized for SoMC. |
spektykles
Joined: Dec 18, 2017
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Please compare this camera module to this camera module
XZ1 front camera:
S9 front camera
I know right, laughable... |
vivftp
Joined: Mar 10, 2012
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Still wish they could put the XA2 Ultras front camera setup into the Premium. I wonder how small they could possibly shrink the bezel and still fit it in.
spektykles, you've shared some interesting info these past weeks. Please understand we are skeptical of any insider info from a new source as we've been burned many times. If or when any info you've shared pans out then I'm sure people will view you in a different light.
For transparency sake, would you be able to clarify if you gather your info from around the web, or from a direct source? Just curious 
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spektykles
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From both sources.
I work with Xperia and Sony (not just smartphone but whole range of product, like PS, Bravia, SRDG, SCSL,...) softwares for some years now and have some direct contacts with developers, companies and carriers related to Sony...
The infos i gathered, then combine with info online like patents and interview, result in what u have now... |
vivftp
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On 2018-04-07 17:29:09, spektykles wrote:
From both sources.
I work with Xperia and Sony (not just smartphone but whole range of product, like PS, Bravia, SRDG, SCSL,...) softwares for some years now and have some direct contacts with developers, companies and carriers related to Sony...
The infos i gathered, then combine with info online like patents and interview, result in what u have now...
Thanks for clarifying
I too used to work for Sony, but just in tech/customer support so I never really had anything to leak, lol
So... wacha think of the Z9F? 10,000 nits?  |
Moe87
Joined: Oct 26, 2017
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I knew it was going to happen.
Just compare U11 and U11+ for example.
Downgrade from 16MP to 8MP.
Check on gsmarena the samples of XZ against XZ2 selfie. Ignore XZ1 and its permanent beauty mode even when it is off.
Difference is ridiculous in favor of XZ.
In the end , the only benefit of AMBIENTE FLOW is ergonomy. Screen to body ratio is same of XA2.
Worse selfie camera compare even to L2.
Black bars when you play some games or watch videos.
I was a bit disappointed when I saw renders of XA2/XA2U, but they turned out to be much better in reality.
I think both look way better than xz2.
I like the loop.
Question : Ultra has always had OIS on front, but at night still shoots high ISO. Why?
@spek What was the main reason to kill Z, M and C? You still find ppl out there waiting for a Z6.
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spektykles
Joined: Dec 18, 2017
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On 2018-04-07 17:30:45, vivftp wrote:
On 2018-04-07 17:29:09, spektykles wrote:
From both sources.
I work with Xperia and Sony (not just smartphone but whole range of product, like PS, Bravia, SRDG, SCSL,...) softwares for some years now and have some direct contacts with developers, companies and carriers related to Sony...
The infos i gathered, then combine with info online like patents and interview, result in what u have now...
Thanks for clarifying
I too used to work for Sony, but just in tech/customer support so I never really had anything to leak, lol
So... wacha think of the Z9F? 10,000 nits?
Z9F and A1F, X1 Ultimate, i guess.... |
spektykles
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On 2018-04-07 17:36:28, Moe87 wrote:
I knew it was going to happen.
Just compare U11 and U11+ for example.
Downgrade from 16MP to 8MP.
Check on gsmarena the samples of XZ against XZ2 selfie. Ignore XZ1 and its permanent beauty mode even when it is off.
Difference is ridiculous in favor of XZ.
In the end , the only benefit of AMBIENTE FLOW is ergonomy. Screen to body ratio is same of XA2.
Worse selfie camera compare even to L2.
Black bars when you play some games or watch videos.
I was a bit disappointed when I saw renders of XA2/XA2U, but they turned out to be much better in reality.
I think both look way better than xz2.
I like the loop.
Question : Ultra has always had OIS on front, but at night still shoots high ISO. Why?
@spek What was the main reason to kill Z, M and C? You still find ppl out there waiting for a Z6.
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[ This Message was edited by: Moe87 on 2018-04-07 16:40 ]
OIS wobble effect due to micro-movements, so fast shutter speed high ISO to counter for wobbling effect...
Z,M,C consolidated into L, XA, X and XZ series...
Reason I think the old lineup overlapped a lot, and ppl having a hard time to choose what they want...
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AlvinZahranM
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On 2018-04-07 17:36:48, spektykles wrote:
Z9F and A1F, X1 Ultimate, i guess....
I'm sorry everyone, but I have to ask these off-topic questions to him:
So, both new TVs are Z9F and A1F? Judging by their names, they'll be launched at IFA, right?
[ This Message was edited by: AlvinZahranM on 2018-04-07 16:54 ] Daily Drivers: Galaxy S23 Ultra, Galaxy S22 Ultra, and iPhone 14 Pro Max
Secondary: vivo X80 Pro
Still using as a backup: Xperia XZ2
Still using (not as much): Galaxy Tab A 8.0 |
spektykles
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On 2018-04-07 17:52:22, AlvinZahranM wrote:
On 2018-04-07 17:36:48, spektykles wrote:
Z9F and A1F, X1 Ultimate, i guess....
I'm sorry everyone, but I have to ask these off-topic questions to him:
So, both new TVs are Z9F and A1F? Judging by their names, they'll be launched at IFA, right?
[ This Message was edited by: AlvinZahranM on 2018-04-07 16:54 ]
More like IFA 2019, right now IFA 2018 too soon for 8K HDR for LCD and 4K HDR for OLED, cant make the A8F owners feeling betrayed...
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josephnero
Joined: Mar 20, 2012
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Trying to teach us about the camera module? Lol
Color me skeptical but no real contact comes and says hey I worked for almost all the divisions in sony lol. Not even the CEO does that.
The truth is the front cam is average. It also lost auto focus and the aperture got smaller too. And btw thickness is not a problem in Xz2 as its plenty thick in that area.
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