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vivftp
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Posted: 2018-04-03 03:30
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Considering the fact that all Premium phones to date have a 4K screen I would imagine they would continue that trend. The only question would be whether it's still using LCD or if they've managed to secure an OLED display.

Personally, I always felt that the Premium phones should encompass all of the best features of all the phones that year. For example, the XA2 Ultra has a great front facing camera setup with OIS and front facing flash, that should be in the Premium. Any feature that's the best in class on any Sony phone that year should find its way to the Premium. I can't really understand why they would't do that. Some of the previous XA Ultra phones have loudspeakers that get far louder than the XZ2, even with a single speaker. Why not figure out a way to use 2 of those in a Premium model?

I'm fine with Sony having a flagship to compete with the others, but the Premium should dial everything up to 11 and then some. I love my XZ Premium, but I'm still baffled when I see that Sony has some better features that they'll put on the mid rangers that don't make their way to the ultra high end flagship.
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Posted: 2018-04-03 05:38
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I believe that happens only to xz2 because of glass.
My dad has moto g2, curved back and it did the test.
Plastic has higher grip than glass.

First time mine fell on the floor was due to glass.
It was on the couch, then... 😅
Like butter on a hot knife.


I agree, Premium should have the selfie of Ultra.
Actually the XA1+ was the loudest so far, kinda more than necessary.

But Sony says XZ2 is the loudest ever.
Looks like to be hard to keep great quality if you use too much loudness.
Other phones with bottom speaker are louder, but not that good.
U11 is not stereo, it is a trick only. One example of loud speakers.


EDIT: Android Marvel has an article about the tablets, they believe they are real and run Chrome OS.
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Archdragoon
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Posted: 2018-04-03 13:43
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Just check with SONY staff... No DAC inside usb type c adapter...

*Both y type and straight type.
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Posted: 2018-04-03 16:53
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On 2018-04-03 13:43:44, Archdragoon wrote:
Just check with SONY staff... No DAC inside usb type c adapter...

*Both y type and straight type.
[ This Message was edited by: Archdragoon on 2018-04-03 12:47 ]



technically speaking, The adapter MUST has DAC inside because phone send digital data through USB and convert to analog (sound wave) using DAC then passing it to headphones/headsets.

But if the staff meant that there is no premium grade DAC inside, maybe true.
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Posted: 2018-04-03 17:29
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Someone posted on weibo that the phones are XZ2P and XZ2s.
Dual cam for both.
For IFA or sooner.

How true is this info?

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Posted: 2018-04-04 01:20
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On 2018-04-03 16:53:26, astider wrote:

On 2018-04-03 13:43:44, Archdragoon wrote:
Just check with SONY staff... No DAC inside usb type c adapter...

*Both y type and straight type.
[ This Message was edited by: Archdragoon on 2018-04-03 12:47 ]



technically speaking, The adapter MUST has DAC inside because phone send digital data through USB and convert to analog (sound wave) using DAC then passing it to headphones/headsets.

But if the staff meant that there is no premium grade DAC inside, maybe true.


As I know this one is the example for adapter that doesn't have a DAC inside.

https://www.honorbuy.com/817-[....]o-speakder-female-adapter.html

We still need someone to disassemble SONY's adapter to see the inside. The staff who give me the information have not see the inside yet. He just ask his colleague for me.
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auchengyu
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Posted: 2018-04-04 01:20
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On 2018-04-03 17:29:10, Moe87 wrote:
Someone posted on weibo that the phones are XZ2P and XZ2s.
Dual cam for both.
For IFA or sooner.

How true is this info?




yeah saw this: http://s.weibo.com/weibo/xz2p?topnav=1&wvr=6&b=1
Its saying XZ2P, Android 9, 6GB ram, 845 chip, dual camera..80% screen ratio, coming this IFA Sept. anyone can verify this info? lol
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On 2018-04-04 01:20:35, auchengyu wrote:
yeah saw this: http://s.weibo.com/weibo/xz2p?topnav=1&wvr=6&b=1
Its saying XZ2P, Android 9, 6GB ram, 845 chip, dual camera..80% screen ratio, coming this IFA Sept. anyone can verify this info? lol


6GB of RAM should be perfectly adequate. Sure some other phones might have 8 but that's alright. S845 is expected as there won't be a better option, unless Qualcomm releases a mid-year refresh or something. 80% STB puts it about 4% higher than the XZ2, so that's perfectly fine IMO. Dual camera... there's a lot of hope riding on that camera, so let's see how it performs.

Sad if it's an IFA launch as we'll have to wait so long. Oh well.
vivftp
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Posted: 2018-04-04 06:54
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I got bored so I went hunting for footage of the new dual camera sensor in action. Here're a few videos I found:


Here is a REALLY low quality video shot of the birthday scene comparing the exposure of the new sensor against what the Sony rep claimed was the Xperia XZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAix9QEMlJ0

Here is a video shot with an a6000 giving a clean look of the screen Sony was using to show the castle scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEbv10CqgAE

The castle demo again shot by a Galaxy S8+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKOqKDGx21M

Again with the castle demo shot by an XZ1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvF-Fbvc6AQ


Anyone find any other footage or pics we can use to see how this new camera setup performs?
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Posted: 2018-04-04 08:58
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On 2018-04-02 12:50:30, Moe87 wrote:
Impossible to deny that Z3+ and S6e are stunning.
Notch is ridiculous.
Even Apple might drop it for 2018 or 2019.




Sorry dude, Notch is here to stay for quite sometime until someone figure it out
how to design properly 3D camera system (laser, infrared and more) that can put in one place.

I don't care about Notch-y as long as it equipped with properly hardware apart of that it totally lame copycat.
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Posted: 2018-04-04 09:03
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On 2018-04-03 16:53:26, astider wrote:

On 2018-04-03 13:43:44, Archdragoon wrote:
Just check with SONY staff... No DAC inside usb type c adapter...

*Both y type and straight type.
[ This Message was edited by: Archdragoon on 2018-04-03 12:47 ]



technically speaking, The adapter MUST has DAC inside because phone send digital data through USB and convert to analog (sound wave) using DAC then passing it to headphones/headsets.

But if the staff meant that there is no premium grade DAC inside, maybe true.


Some companies used the Type-C port to send Analog audio directly, then the USB consortium created a standard for analog audio using Type-C.. that's why some phones with Type-C only support specific Type-C headphones.. noticeably some HTC phones...
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Posted: 2018-04-04 10:41
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Dual cam footage does not seem to have any kind of noise.

Notch was not necessary. They could easily use a top bezel and the other 3 sides edge-to-edge.
Like Sharp Crystal, just upside down.
This cut makes screen more expensive, even more if it is oled.
Iphone X has less STB than other phones without notch.


https://sumahoinfo.com/xperia[....]c-shows-docomo-au-so-05k-sov38
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astider
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Posted: 2018-04-04 18:10
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On 2018-04-04 10:41:09, Moe87 wrote:
Dual cam footage does not seem to have any kind of noise.

Notch was not necessary. They could easily use a top bezel and the other 3 sides edge-to-edge.
Like Sharp Crystal, just upside down.
This cut makes screen more expensive, even more if it is oled.
Iphone X has less STB than other phones without notch.


https://sumahoinfo.com/xperia[....]c-shows-docomo-au-so-05k-sov38
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I didn't find that report. The image is too blur to read the ID.
the latest one is PY7-43153F updated on 4 April and yes, no headphones jack.
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Posted: 2018-04-04 18:59
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As the site itself says, it could be fake. But if it's real, this might be a part of design changes.
Moe87
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Posted: 2018-04-04 19:23
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A while ago, someone on weibo posted that one flagship has the Jack.
Also same DAC of Axon 7.
I left the link when article was written.

So , not first time someone says about having jack back...

Video skills of XZ2 : https://youtu.be/fzMUzV6gcD4



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