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RacSony
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Posted: 2018-03-16 15:09
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android headlines is wrong.

PY7-21831A=PY7-00718V

Chedck "ID Change Letter".

Also there is a document stating no difference between those two other than band
spektykles
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Posted: 2018-03-16 15:32
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A new Xperia, maybe same time as "XZ2 Premium", could be "XA2 Plus". IDK....

H44xx, 18:9, SDM660, based on platform Nile R2...

Codename "SM42"????
Source code of XA2 series mentioned it....
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On 2018-03-16 15:32:28, spektykles wrote:
A new Xperia, maybe same time as "XZ2 Premium", could be "XA2 Plus". IDK....

H44xx, 18:9, SDM660, based on platform Nile R2...

Codename "SM42"????



Nice info. would you mind sharing the source?
spektykles
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Posted: 2018-03-16 15:41
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On 2018-03-16 15:34:36, RacSony wrote:

On 2018-03-16 15:32:28, spektykles wrote:
A new Xperia, maybe same time as "XZ2 Premium", could be "XA2 Plus". IDK....

H44xx, 18:9, SDM660, based on platform Nile R2...

Codename "SM42"????



Nice info. would you mind sharing the source?




You could consider me as a guy who working with Xperia software....

Ofcourse I have no real way to confirm, but let's see about it...
spektykles
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Posted: 2018-03-16 15:52
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For the record, I can confirm that there is an "New Xperia X", before it was killed when SoMC plan changed

Codename "Oak", Snapdragon 653, platform Loire R3

CDB is Blanc or Xperia Touch

CDB_R2 is Bright or Xperia Hello


Both above using platform Loire Smart (BlancBright)
Kugo is X Compact. Platform Loire R2H

Suzu is Xperia X. Platform Loire R1

...

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RacSony
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Posted: 2018-03-16 15:55
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Thanks spektykles,

I trust your info (unlike someone else's)

So so far, this H44XX has SD660, not SD 630 for sure?
spektykles
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Posted: 2018-03-16 16:00
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On 2018-03-16 15:55:19, RacSony wrote:
Thanks spektykles,

I trust your info (unlike someone else's)

So so far, this H44XX has SD660, not SD 630 for sure?




Actually XA2 series using the board designed for SDM660 (630 and 660 SoC can use the same board), and Sony is know for cost-cutting (they traditionally recycle parts of HW and SW, like XPerf and XZ share a lot of parts and SW too)...

And sometimes Sony devs are forgetting to scrub off some info about new devices on their source codes....
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Posted: 2018-03-16 16:04
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XA1 and XA1+ are different... 5" and 5.5".
Now XA2 has 5.2".
I dont think a XA2+ is necessary.
Not much difference between 5.2" 16:9 and 5.7" 18:9, if this device has size of XZ2.

The phone that certification was cancelled then certified again is flagship.
There were two phones with sim.tray at the top.
RacSony
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Posted: 2018-03-16 16:26
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On 2018-03-16 16:04:49, Moe87 wrote:
XA1 and XA1+ are different... 5" and 5.5".
Now XA2 has 5.2".
I dont think a XA2+ is necessary.
Not much difference between 5.2" 16:9 and 5.7" 18:9, if this device has size of XZ2.

The phone that certification was cancelled then certified again is flagship.
There were two phones with sim.tray at the top.


Again, PY7-21831A and PY7-00718V are the same device.
Nothing new. Some stupid sites with no knowledge/tracking of FCC saying it's XZ2 Pro/Premium
RacSony
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Posted: 2018-03-16 16:30
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On 2018-03-16 16:00:23, spektykles wrote:

On 2018-03-16 15:55:19, RacSony wrote:
Thanks spektykles,

I trust your info (unlike someone else's)

So so far, this H44XX has SD660, not SD 630 for sure?




Actually XA2 series using the board designed for SDM660 (630 and 660 SoC can use the same board), and Sony is know for cost-cutting (they traditionally recycle parts of HW and SW, like XPerf and XZ share a lot of parts and SW too)...

And sometimes Sony devs are forgetting to scrub off some info about new devices on their source codes....


Now it makes sense. I've been wondering why Geekbench shows XA2/XA2 Ultra's CPU as SDM660 instead of SDM630, but this explains everything. So you are saying this H44XX could be either SDM630 or SDM660?
spektykles
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Posted: 2018-03-16 16:32
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On 2018-03-16 16:30:33, RacSony wrote:

On 2018-03-16 16:00:23, spektykles wrote:

On 2018-03-16 15:55:19, RacSony wrote:
Thanks spektykles,

I trust your info (unlike someone else's)

So so far, this H44XX has SD660, not SD 630 for sure?




Actually XA2 series using the board designed for SDM660 (630 and 660 SoC can use the same board), and Sony is know for cost-cutting (they traditionally recycle parts of HW and SW, like XPerf and XZ share a lot of parts and SW too)...

And sometimes Sony devs are forgetting to scrub off some info about new devices on their source codes....


Now it makes sense. I've been wondering why Geekbench shows XA2/XA2 Ultra's CPU as SDM660 instead of SDM630, but this explains everything. So you are saying this H44XX could be either SDM630 or SDM660?


Using 660 designed board for 630 is an overkill, unless they could save tons of money for not creating a new one specially for only 630....
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RacSony
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Posted: 2018-03-16 16:35
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On 2018-03-16 16:32:32, spektykles wrote:

On 2018-03-16 16:30:33, RacSony wrote:

On 2018-03-16 16:00:23, spektykles wrote:

On 2018-03-16 15:55:19, RacSony wrote:
Thanks spektykles,

I trust your info (unlike someone else's)

So so far, this H44XX has SD660, not SD 630 for sure?




Actually XA2 series using the board designed for SDM660 (630 and 660 SoC can use the same board), and Sony is know for cost-cutting (they traditionally recycle parts of HW and SW, like XPerf and XZ share a lot of parts and SW too)...

And sometimes Sony devs are forgetting to scrub off some info about new devices on their source codes....


Now it makes sense. I've been wondering why Geekbench shows XA2/XA2 Ultra's CPU as SDM660 instead of SDM630, but this explains everything. So you are saying this H44XX could be either SDM630 or SDM660?


Using 660 designed board for 630 is an overkill, unless they could save tons of money for not creating a new one specially for only 630....
[ This Message was edited by: spektykles on 2018-03-16 15:32 ]



Oh, ok, so it is not the reason XA2 shows up with SDM660 on Geekbench.

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Posted: 2018-03-16 16:50
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Battery life of XZ2 Compact is updated on GSMArena.com. It's rated as 19:20h talk, 13:04h web and 10:24h video, with 88h standby. 88h is the same as XZ2. It looks not bad but not as spectacular as XZ1 compact. I guess this is probably the reason why Sony will no more make compact models with the high-end CPU as rumor says. The increased screen resolution does have a big impact on battery.

https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3?idPhone=9082#show
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Posted: 2018-03-16 18:24
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Camera samples of XZ2c are a bit different from XZ2.
They are brighter , less vibrating colors.
Lower ISO in good lighting ( 40 x 80), same ISO for low light but different white balance.

The impact of 1080p+ on battery was expected.

High end cpu helps due to better litography and built.
It is probably low sales..
No compact had the impact of Z1c and Z3c. Now ppl are looking for big screen to watch more videos.
I read that in one location , I dont remember if it was India or Thailand, the best seller Xperia last year was XA1 Ultra.
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Posted: 2018-03-17 01:02
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The phone which FCC ID is PY700718V has a part that is called SHORT TERM CONFIDENTIALITY.
Something there about JULY 21th ...
Sim card slot like XZ2.
https://fccid.io/PY7-00718V
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