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Archdragoon
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Posted: 2018-01-22 09:47
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On 2018-01-22 09:22:33, XperiaJunkie wrote:
I do indeed.



I see. So it's just different in taste then.

I can't feel such right bass impact on MDR-1000x.
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XperiaJunkie
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Posted: 2018-01-22 09:55
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Yeah just a different of opinion or potentially the music we listen to as I tend to listen to a lot of grunge/punk/rock/metal where bass isn't that heavy to be honest and I also customise my equaliser to suit my taste and again I think the MDR-1000X does a better job at fine tuning than the MDR-1A's
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Archdragoon
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Posted: 2018-01-22 10:02
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I see. I also love rock/metal especially the disturbed.

But I don't adjust the EQ.
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Posted: 2018-01-22 10:04
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I don't believe Sony would get rid of the 3.5mm socket. They are still shipping headphones with 5 contact jack's, which will only be compatible with Sony devices for digital noise cancelling (for which they claim to be king). As stated by others is an unfathomable decision if true.

Personally I drive different cars depending which country I'm in. Not all my cars have a decent Bluetooth hookup for playing music, most cars of a certain youth have at least Bluetooth for calls, but even now some high-end brand new cars don't have Bluetooth for music. 3.5mm more or less guarantees an alternative means.

I compare it to carrying cash, card or android pay. If I can I use android pay, else card but cash is still necessary to carry for when all else fails.

Finally, Sony aren't the only OEM still have 3.5mm in their flagships, if it was so hard to engineer into place, costs money to produce and is 'old' tech, why would others try to hold onto it?

The future is probably USB-C equipped headphones but they aren't the mainstream yet and so ditching the 3.5mm is like following lemmings off a cliff before the builder lemming has finished the bridge.
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XperiaJunkie
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Posted: 2018-01-22 10:10
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On 2018-01-22 10:02:20, Archdragoon wrote:
I see. I also love rock/metal especially the disturbed.

But I don't adjust the EQ.



Try changing things with the equaliser and let me know what you think between both sets of headphones.
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Moe87
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Posted: 2018-01-22 11:58
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Most of users buy low end/midrange.
That is why Moto G and Galaxy J sell very well.
Mainly in South America.

I am sure my parents would the XA2, but hybrid slot sucks.
It was flagship stuff, now it comes to a midrange.
So L2 will be better choice.

Many ppl dont understand more than basic about tech, but like to buy good stuff.
And the lack of jack will make costumers walk away.
What if it comes to midranges too?
Since Htc 10 they dropped front speakers, then the jack too in late 2016.

Where is HTC now?

Htc 11/11+ are the best of them. Very good LCD, strong camera, among fastest phones and high quality audio.
Still not enough.
You see many comments on tech sites from ppl that say they would not buy it because of no jack.
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josephnero
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Posted: 2018-01-22 12:08
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XA2 dual has seperate slots I guess
Moe87
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Posted: 2018-01-22 12:34
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Ultra is dual.
XA2 is dual hybrid.

XB confirmed that. 😥
josephnero
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Posted: 2018-01-22 12:58
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yeah you're right
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Posted: 2018-01-22 15:13
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I agree with moe87
Sony will be in big trouble if they ditch the jack.
DACHA
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Posted: 2018-01-22 15:46
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I the next 12 months all flagship phone will be without the 3.5mm jack. I don't understand why people are so resistant to accept the fact that technological advancements lead to hardware changes.

Live with it or buy a phone with a 3.5mm jack which will not be a flagship phone.
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Posted: 2018-01-22 15:55
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To be honest, though it is good to have 3.5mm Jack, I would much rather have my headphones plugged directly into the USB jack. Currently, it seems that USB is much more capable of driving headphones than 3.5mm jack.
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Posted: 2018-01-22 17:53
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Its' not. More - it's another variable. With USB audio you're not using phone's DAC but the one in your headphones. In short - you need to buy expensive headset with good DAC inside to enjoy your music, flagship phone is not enough anymore.
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Posted: 2018-01-22 21:30
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Getting rid of the jack for the sake of what? You won't see bezels disappear or battery size increase so I see no harm in keeping it. You can't force people to adopt a new technology either. This whole thing about moving the FPS to the back is something I don't like but it could be worth it if they can squeeze more screen.
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Posted: 2018-01-22 21:38
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On 2018-01-22 15:46:57, DACHA wrote:
I the next 12 months all flagship phone will be without the 3.5mm jack. I don't understand why people are so resistant to accept the fact that technological advancements lead to hardware changes.



And what exactly is that technological advancement you are talking about? It's not like there is a new more advanced standard to replace the good old 3.5mm jack. Neither Bluetooth nor usb type c can replace the old standard. And that's the point. If you are replacing a standard it should do a better job and not the same or even worse.

To all:

Regarding sound quality: I have been using Sony Walkmans for years now since I was never satisfied with the audio quality of smartphones. But since I got my hands on a Redmi Note 4 along with xiaomi piston headphones I was amazed about the sound quality! It's so good that I stopped using my Walkmans as my daily drivers even in the gym. I usually hate it to carry a big smartphone during work outs but the audio quality is so good that I'm getting along with it. It's a budget device but has the best audio among all smartphones I used.
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