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Sony Xperia XZs Announced |
moogoo
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I agree. I think bezels have a purpose in design. going fully bezel-less is a trend i'm not too thrilled about. also, having the xz with front facing stereo speakers is night and day difference from my z1 with side bottom single speaker. i certainly don't mind having bezels if i can get speakers. unless someday sony incorporates their screen audio tech from their TVs into a phone (probably not likely).
moogoo
Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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XperiaJunkie
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Sony Xperia XZs Camera, Gaming + Benchmark
Runs cooler than the XZ, benchmarks great and the camera looks wicked!
I'm so happy 'cause today
I've found my friends ...
They're in my head
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MusaD.Dragon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKb_iceu2lw EIS is a disappointement at night |
moogoo
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@MusaD - looks like another fake video. Anybody can put up videos claiming they are from whatever device. Can't believe what you see unless the reviewer is showing you they have both devices in hand.
moogoo
Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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GRANEDE
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All right the review is up. http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xzs-review-1600p8.php#next
I disagree with gsmarena's opinion on xzs camera performance. They are many improvements in the image department from previous generation. But Sony still have lot of works to do if they want to people to consider the top three camera phone maker in the work. I still think they should go with 12mpx resolution for better low light performance. |
Tibagy
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Great review as always from GSMARENA!
I agree that they were severe in evaluating the XZs camera, as it is notorious that it is better than XZ's, yet it is still behind the cameras of the Blackberry Priv and Microsoft Lumia 950 XL, mainly in ISO BASE as well show the graphics below:
But it is worth mentioning that in low light, the new Xperia is better than the previous generation and the top of the line Microsoft:
That new firmware upgrades further enhance the camera, but in a nutshell, congratulations to Sony, the device actually evolved from the previous generation !!! |
hello1000
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On 2017-04-08 03:50:05, Tibagy wrote:
Great review as always from GSMARENA!
I agree that they were severe in evaluating the XZs camera, as it is notorious that it is better than XZ's, yet it is still behind the cameras of the Blackberry Priv and Microsoft Lumia 950 XL, mainly in ISO BASE as well show the graphics below:
But it is worth mentioning that in low light, the new Xperia is better than the previous generation and the top of the line Microsoft:
That new firmware upgrades further enhance the camera, but in a nutshell, congratulations to Sony, the device actually evolved from the previous generation !!!
That camera review is like always crap, they always how how to downgeade that part.
They never complain about the camera review of Samsung with their oversharping, not natural colors and bad video recording.
That review was a flop, i Don't know why you said its a great review, no its not a great review, a selected review. |
Shino03
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To be honest, I don't know why mobile reviewers think they know better than professional camera reviewers.
All I can remember the last time I used a DLSR camera is that softness isn't always bad.
And if you will look at the fine details of that comparison tool, the XZs is miles better than the blackberry.
The reality is Sony's approach is capturing more detail in the expense of noise. Just look at the paper money in that photo comparison
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MusaD.Dragon
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On 2017-04-07 22:16:09, moogoo wrote:
@MusaD - looks like another fake video. Anybody can put up videos claiming they are from whatever device. Can't believe what you see unless the reviewer is showing you they have both devices in hand.
He actually posted an unboxing and hands on video just before that one
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doministry
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Hmm. It's strange with this lowlight performance of XZs on this GSMArena review.
I mean the lowlight pics look like a total crap, especially the live / street ones.
But also in the sheet comparison test, XZs looks actually worse than XZ.
My XZ can take great night shots so is it a photo taking technique again??
I wish. But if XZs makes such bad lowlight photos, it's my last Sony for sure.
I also believe those reviewers less and less. I have to test myself.
As for PhoneBattles videos, they definitely seem NOT fake at all.
And if you really analyze this iPhone 7 / XZs comparison,
exept the walking part XZs's EiS looks more stable and steady that iPhone's.
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admad
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On 2017-04-08 03:10:43, GRANEDE wrote:
All right the review is up. http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xzs-review-1600p8.php#next
I disagree with gsmarena's opinion on xzs camera performance. They are many improvements in the image department from previous generation. But Sony still have lot of works to do if they want to people to consider the top three camera phone maker in the work. I still think they should go with 12mpx resolution for better low light performance.
Reducing MP has nothing to do with low light performance. How about simply implementing OIS like every other manufacturer? -.- |
doministry
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On 2017-04-08 17:14:07, admad wrote:
On 2017-04-08 03:10:43, GRANEDE wrote:
All right the review is up. http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xzs-review-1600p8.php#next
I disagree with gsmarena's opinion on xzs camera performance. They are many improvements in the image department from previous generation. But Sony still have lot of works to do if they want to people to consider the top three camera phone maker in the work. I still think they should go with 12mpx resolution for better low light performance.
Reducing MP has nothing to do with low light performance. How about simply implementing OIS like every other manufacturer? -.-
OIS doesn't do better than Sony's EIS.
It's all about the algorithm.
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milanelo
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Battery life is yet again disappointing.  |
doministry
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On 2017-04-08 19:23:41, milanelo wrote:
Battery life is yet again disappointing.
I wouldn't say that.
It's a bit better than XZ which is amazing.
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admad
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On 2017-04-08 17:49:21, doministry wrote:
On 2017-04-08 17:14:07, admad wrote:
On 2017-04-08 03:10:43, GRANEDE wrote:
All right the review is up. http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xzs-review-1600p8.php#next
I disagree with gsmarena's opinion on xzs camera performance. They are many improvements in the image department from previous generation. But Sony still have lot of works to do if they want to people to consider the top three camera phone maker in the work. I still think they should go with 12mpx resolution for better low light performance.
Reducing MP has nothing to do with low light performance. How about simply implementing OIS like every other manufacturer? -.-
OIS doesn't do better than Sony's EIS.
It's all about the algorithm.
In photo department of course it does. Phones with OIS can take pictures with lower ISO at same shutter speed that i.e Sony will use with higher ISO, that's where EIS fails to do anything, and this is the reason why night pictures with sony (not taken on tripod) fall short behind competition.
In video department I will agree that EIS works very well (even better that OIS alone), with no much harm to quality (FOV is hurt a little bit, but that's something you won't ever notice). |
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