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McKinley
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It's good to see that Sony finally have upped the ante in the TV department.
The Sony ZD9 is definitely something Samsung and LG should feel worry about.
I hope the Xperia phone can shock us but I will not hold my breath for it
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McKinley
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On 2016-08-17 17:35:08, Ricky D wrote:
All we need now is a teaser micro-site to mull over.
Oh wait, not enough budget for such flamboyance.
Makes me think of the time when it was Sony Ericsson. They would launch a mini site prior to an event. That kind of attitude is long gone. Anyone remembering the mini-site for K750?
If anyone can find that mini-site please link it here. 
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ascariss
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While unlikely and not some thing I feel sony would do, perhaps they will be the first or the first phone manufacturer to offer sound out via the usb type c
https://www.engadget.com/2016[....]will-ease-headphone-jack-loss/
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hgautam
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USB type C Audio phone is already launched by LeEco... So Sony can't be the first one to do so... |
supercoolman
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I had thought Ricky flipped the b from usb |
tai020381
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Curved sensor ? Ssd in phone ? Liquid optical zoom ?
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DACHA
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My bet is on Snapdragon X16 modem
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kurtdean
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I thought ufs 2.0 is ssd for phones  |
tai020381
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On 2016-08-18 05:07:58, kurtdean wrote:
I thought ufs 2.0 is ssd for phones
And it took so long to boot ? |
Xajel
Joined: Jun 18, 2004
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UFS 2.0 is SSD, even microSD is SSD...
SSD stands for Solid State Storage, so any storage solution based on Solid State physics is SSD, this includes computer SSD, microSD, UFS, NVMe, eMMC
Currently UFS 2.0 is the most superior tech. in this market, it can handle up to 583MB/s speeds, eMMC just went into small upgrade from 400 to 533 which is still slower than UFS 2.0 but what holds eMMC better is it's easier and cheaper implementation compared to UFS 2.0...
But the promising tech. is NVMe, but we're just beginning to see some entries in the mobile application..
NVMe Gen. 2 ( based on PCIe Gen 2 ) can handle 500MB/s, but NVMe Gen. 3 ( based on PCIe Gen 3 ) can handle 1GB/s, and the next jump Gen. 4 which will be like in 2017-2018 will double that also... and that's per lane, you can use more lanes for faster speeds
Just few months ago Samsung announced the first NVMe 512GB single BGA package it only measures 20x16mm and it includes the whole package ( NAND chips + controller + DRAM cache )... and it go for speeds upto 1.5GB/s read and 800MB/s write... that is fast even by PC standards...
current SoC can support these as they use a simple PCIe bus which all SoC already have, being NVMe giving it much better advantages over eMMC and even UFS 2.0, like simple protocol, low overhead, native hardware interface, multi queue depth ( compared to single in both eMMC and UFS 2.0 )...
The only caveat with NVMe is that it's a new technology even for PC's and laptops, but they're progressing very well duo to multi factors, being new means it's also expensive, prices will go cheaper with time and single chips will become more mainstream specially with DRAM-less storages coming which will be smaller in dimensions and cost less also, and while DRAM-less is known as the cheap solution in PC market, it still better than UFS 2.0 in a mobile applications and will make it easier and cheaper to implement.
But don't look into NVMe for Sony as first to market, as Apple did it with 6S products, just look at it's performance numbers, while random is not the best, the sequential is fast, looking at this as the first implementation of NVMe in a mobile, it's very promising...
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supercoolman
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On 2016-08-18 08:27:13, Xajel wrote:
UFS 2.0 is SSD, even microSD is SSD...
SSD stands for Solid State Storage, so any storage solution based on Solid State physics is SSD, this includes computer SSD, microSD, UFS, NVMe, eMMC
Currently UFS 2.0 is the most superior tech. in this market, it can handle up to 583MB/s speeds, eMMC just went into small upgrade from 400 to 533 which is still slower than UFS 2.0 but what holds eMMC better is it's easier and cheaper implementation compared to UFS 2.0...
But the promising tech. is NVMe, but we're just beginning to see some entries in the mobile application..
NVMe Gen. 2 ( based on PCIe Gen 2 ) can handle 500MB/s, but NVMe Gen. 3 ( based on PCIe Gen 3 ) can handle 1GB/s, and the next jump Gen. 4 which will be like in 2017-2018 will double that also... and that's per lane, you can use more lanes for faster speeds
Just few months ago Samsung announced the first NVMe 512GB single BGA package it only measures 20x16mm and it includes the whole package ( NAND chips + controller + DRAM cache )... and it go for speeds upto 1.5GB/s read and 800MB/s write... that is fast even by PC standards...
current SoC can support these as they use a simple PCIe bus which all SoC already have, being NVMe giving it much better advantages over eMMC and even UFS 2.0, like simple protocol, low overhead, native hardware interface, multi queue depth ( compared to single in both eMMC and UFS 2.0 )...
The only caveat with NVMe is that it's a new technology even for PC's and laptops, but they're progressing very well duo to multi factors, being new means it's also expensive, prices will go cheaper with time and single chips will become more mainstream specially with DRAM-less storages coming which will be smaller in dimensions and cost less also, and while DRAM-less is known as the cheap solution in PC market, it still better than UFS 2.0 in a mobile applications and will make it easier and cheaper to implement.
But don't look into NVMe for Sony as first to market, as Apple did it with 6S products, just look at it's performance numbers, while random is not the best, the sequential is fast, looking at this as the first implementation of NVMe in a mobile, it's very promising...
[ This Message was edited by: Xajel on 2016-08-18 07:32 ]
NVMe at this point will have heating issue and must throttle from running at high performance especially when people like to run non-realistic benchmark |
Xajel
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@supercoolman
True, but that in extreme situation like you said non-realistic benchmarks, in normal mobile workflow at this time you don't super fast speed, there's no mobile apps that needs such speed neither the SoC is able to have such speed while processing them in the same time, so in the meantime, don't expect to see 1GB/s + speeds, lower speed can be achieved without heat issues, and manufacturers can do such for easy as they won't need to push the the controller + NAND to the limit
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ascariss
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On 2016-08-17 21:16:18, hgautam wrote:
USB type C Audio phone is already launched by LeEco... So Sony can't be the first one to do so...
Then I am out of ideas. |
bronxdude
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i think we may see the curved sensor. |
XperiaJunkie
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The USP could be anything, I really hope it's something that'll be useful rather than a pointless gimmick like the Note 7 S-Pen working under water. For me personally i'd love the S-Master digital amp but I feel it'll be camera related but to what I've not a clue. Anyway less than 2 weeks to go now so not long until we find of for sure.
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They're in my head
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