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Sony Xperia Z5 Announced |
emerson_shei Joined: Mar 03, 2013 Posts: > 500 PM |
Sony’s Latest Promotional Vid Puts The Xperia Z5 Camera To The Test In Berlin
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]-camera-to-the-test-in-berlin/ |
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penguino Joined: Apr 05, 2015 Posts: 221 PM |
It's been already posted here. S6 is still better in most situations (look at the crops). |
MusaD.Dragon Joined: Jun 23, 2013 Posts: 226 PM |
http://twentyfirsttech.com/20[....]y-xperia-z5-first-impressions/ this guy far from being convinced with the camera |
hello1000 Joined: Nov 10, 2013 Posts: 149 PM |
On 2015-09-23 16:47:06, penguino wrote:
It's been already posted here. S6 is still better in most situations (look at the crops).
In your wet dream.
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ascariss Joined: Apr 06, 2013 Posts: > 500 PM |
If what is written in that article is true regarding manual settings, then quite unfortunate. Concerning the volume rocker, had a feeling moving it down that low could be an issue. Also would have thought the new back make it less slippery, will test it in person but with no manual settings, not sure I will be grabbing the Z5.
There has been no improvement in the camera algorithm
If true, then it is a shame. Why use a new and improved sensor and then handicap it with the software.
The camera’s Manual Mode is now useless
Pathetic. 800 ISO in 20.7MP mode is available on my Z3, 3200 in 8MP, while nothing spectacular, if was still nice to be able to select the ISO in 20.7MP mode. Maybe this issue with selecting ISO will be fixed in the November update, but doubtful.
Below I have attached the image from the article posted by MusaD, top to bottom, Z2, Z5, G4. I have brightened the image to see how bad or good the noise and colours are.
I have not altered the images in any other way except reducing them in size, but you can download them yourselves and brighten them up in photoshop or where ever to see the real photos if you do not believe me.
Looking at the 3 images, the lowlight performance of the Z2 and Z5 are poor, G4 is superior.
The settings used:
Z2 - 1/8s , ISO 6400
Z5 - 1/8s, ISO 12800
G4 - 30s , ISO 100
The Z5 photo has way too much noise, expected at IS0 12800, sure it is brighter than the Z2 but it looks like like crap.
Sure the Z5 is using pre-production software and maybe even hardware, but can't foresee Sony improving the image quality that much in the next few weeks.
When we asked the Sony representatives their reasoning behind this limitation, they were at a loss for words before stammering out a rather unbelievable excuse that the sensor could not handle manual ISO at 20 or 23 MP, even though it was no problem at 20.7 MP with the previous Xperia Z devices.
Oh Sony try harder. While my Z3 is fine and serves me well, I may jump ship to the G4 for the camera. Seems LG put a lot more effort into the camera software than Sony has, yet Sony claims their camera is the one of the best in class. The G4 is not that expensive now, if I sell my Z3 dual, I won't have to add much to buy it off plan. hmm.
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doministry Joined: Apr 13, 2007 Posts: > 500 From: PL PM, WWW
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I really hardly trust those tests.
And definitely don't treat it as a final answer...
Anyway, do YOU UNDERSTAND what you read??
"The settings used:
Z2 - 1/8s , ISO 6400
Z5 - 1/8s, ISO 12800
G4 - 30s , ISO 100 ".
To make ANY sensible comparison, they should use COMPARABLE shutter speeds.
With 30 seconds of the shutter beeing opened, all of them would perform amazingly.
It's great G4 supports shutter speed setting, but that is not a comparison.
And of course, you just can't compare 100 ISO quality with 12800 unless you're a complete idiot.
So, this comparison is just a bullcr..p
Edit:
LG is even set to ISO 50.
Edit 2:
"◾Manual mode at 8 MP, low-light scene, and ISO 50 (to reduce noise) produces a pitch-black image. This clearly highlights the shortcomings of the Xperia Z5’s camera algorithm, which looks to have become worse than its predecessors"
This guy is an idiot. OF COURSE, with such shutter speeds ANY camera would give black image at ISO 50.
ROFTL.
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blackzeros Joined: Jul 21, 2015 Posts: 381 PM |
what kind of idiocy was there , comparing pictures with these settings |
Shino03 Joined: Dec 22, 2008 Posts: > 500 From: Pearl of the Orient Seas PM |
It's an unfair comparison. Nonetheless if it is the auto settings, Lg should be given credit for having a useful image at the expense of time, 30 seconds! I am kind of pissed with Sony for depending too much on higher ISO settings. With My Z2, the longest shutter speed I got was 1 second and I am quite positive that the Z series cameras would have the same or close quality with the G4 if allowed at such shutter speed.
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Archdragoon Joined: Mar 18, 2015 Posts: > 500 PM |
such an epic fail comparison |
Jamzy Joined: Jun 24, 2015 Posts: 143 PM |
Sony Xperia Z5 shooting in ISO 12800 Low Light Mode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ8cVazmC2Y
[ This Message was edited by: Jamzy on 2015-09-25 08:24 ] |
doministry Joined: Apr 13, 2007 Posts: > 500 From: PL PM, WWW
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Whoa so on this video it actually takes a great shot?
Well.
The only thing I hate is no Manual ISO on full res.
That's idiotic. Low ISO allows great results.
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MyP910 Joined: Feb 16, 2005 Posts: 499 PM |
Wait, why compare iso 12800 with iso 100? That is unfair. Definitely iso 12800 will be too noisy unless you are using sony A7S, the king of low noise at high ISO.
Ericsson t10, T310, P800, S600, P910, P990, SEX1, SEX10, SEXArc, XZ, XZ1 |
doministry Joined: Apr 13, 2007 Posts: > 500 From: PL PM, WWW
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On 2015-09-25 15:58:26, MyP910 wrote:
Wait, why compare iso 12800 with iso 100? That is unfair. Definitely iso 12800 will be too noisy unless you are using sony A7S, the king of low noise at high ISO.
Unfair? I would say it's just stupid
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admad Joined: May 26, 2005 Posts: > 500 From: Poland PM |
He is right about one thing, manual mode in Sony phones is an insult. Not only Sony has a LOT of experience in camera business, they brag about how great camera in Xperia phones is. It doesn't stop them from putting really shitty manual mode.
Anyway someone posted here a screenshot that manual mode is unlocked in Z5, it's just not implemented in official camera app. Ridicolous. |
Jamzy Joined: Jun 24, 2015 Posts: 143 PM |
Some camera samples taken during visit to Sony
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4551/203334/1/ |
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