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Tizzo
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Posted: 2015-09-28 10:05
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Can anyone access this link?

https://www.digitalnewsasia.c[....]um-range-rationalise-portfolio
Xajel
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Posted: 2015-09-28 12:31
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^^^ They seems to remove the article... but Google Cache is always here to help

I saved it just in case...

Talking about Z5 series mainly, including prices in SGD

Z5c S$828 (USD 580 / EUR 518)
Z5 S$ 998 (USD 699 / EUR 625)
Z5p S$ 1098 (USD 769 / EUR 688)

https://drive.google.com/file[....]E0YmRkY25KVzg/view?usp=sharing

nikola1970
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Posted: 2015-09-28 16:19
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After looking at Meizu Pro 5 with IMX230 camera samples, all i can say is F-U-C-K YOU SONY!

That phone produces by a big margin sharper images that any Sony phone can achive. No blur, everything is in focus, processing is done right... and it is Sony's sensor.
Seriuosly, WTF is going on with the camera sensors that Sony is using in their phones? They look inferior in every aspect even though Sony is claiming that they use "the best and exclusive" for themselves lol.

Just look at the samples from the last post here:

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=208407
Gitaroo
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Posted: 2015-09-28 17:29
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I think someone seriously need to show all the samples comparison to which ever idiot in charger of the Sony mobile camera and tell them to explain. Years after years and they don't seems like they still get it. I thought I have to say GSMarena early Z5 samples still looks the best of compare to anything.
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Posted: 2015-09-28 17:42
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On 2015-09-27 19:27:00, ascariss wrote:
Both phones have PDAF, IMX230 for M5, and IMX240 for Note 5, so both should be equally fast for focus. What is interesting is that the Note 5 has 2 stabilization systems, OIS for photos, and VDIS for videos. I believe it works like the iphone 6 plus, which also uses OIS only for photos and turns it off for videos and goes with digital stabilization.

Real world photos are usually good for comparison, but using the GSMArena camera comparison tool for M5 and note 5, shows the following

http://www.gsmarena.com/piccm[....]=1&idPhone1=7431&idPhone2=7464

Using the ISO chart, it feels as if the M5 is sharper than the note 5, scaled to 12mp and not scaled.



color too, hard to tell in full size when both are not in the correct scale as M5 being much bigger, but if you scaled both to 12MP, M5 definitely capture much more detail if you look at the flowers.



Another thing is many others like messing with the black levels to create and illusion of richer colors. MS has been doing that with the 360 since the very beginning and now with Xbone but now back firing with black crush on lots of xbone games. Seems to be the same case here for phones photoes.
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Posted: 2015-09-28 20:58
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It looks like Xperia Z5 series phone will have great camera and battery life.
https://www.androidpit.com/sony-xperia-z5-compact-review
Jamzy
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Posted: 2015-09-29 13:31
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Sony may have finally moved to 1 flagship per year
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]hip-until-second-half-of-2016/

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The video shows Rikke Gertsen Constein, Art Director at Sony Mobile, talking about the design of the Xperia Z series. Part way through the video when asked about future plans, Constein confirms that they are already working on designs for the second half of 2016, 2017 and 2018.

It is the explicit mention of H2 2016 for the next flagship models that could clearly indicate Sony will not launch a new model in the first six months of 2016. If this turns out to be true, i.e. Sony mobbing to a single flagship release per year, would you be happy? Let us know your comments below.

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goldenface
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Posted: 2015-09-29 15:46
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I read that the development cycle for each flagship could be two - three years, so when the decision to move to one flagship a year was taken, a couple of years ago, there were possibly already two six month flagships in development.

It's been a good thing for Sony I think, because it has enabled them to catch up and now surpass the competition in some key areas, such as 4K video and screen res.
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Posted: 2015-09-29 18:05
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Bad thing for Sony is that they decided to show a new flagship in H2, which means using 9 months old SoC.
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Posted: 2015-09-29 18:28
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yeah, really hope that Z5 ultra with s820 in H1 is real. Always thought they should do phablet in H1 and standard and compact in H2. LG seems to get it with Flex, no need to go head to head with note series in H2. A z ultra is also different enough from Flex to set them apart.
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Posted: 2015-09-29 21:21
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I don't care about phablets, most of the market wants regular phones and that's where Sony won't be competetive.
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Posted: 2015-09-29 22:49
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On 2015-09-29 18:05:24, penguino wrote:
Bad thing for Sony is that they decided to show a new flagship in H2, which means using 9 months old SoC.

Doesn't matter. SoC's are only updated once a year. Doesn't matter if its 0 months old, or 9 months old, performance will be the same, unless they design their own cores.
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Posted: 2015-09-30 01:19
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Thing is - Sony's flagship is going to have the best SoC for like 3-4 months. After that it'll have to compete with new flagships that have new SoCs. More - right off the bat it's going to compete with the next iPhone (I read somewhere that surprisingly quite a lot of new Sony buyes previously had an iPhone).
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Posted: 2015-09-30 01:19
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On 2015-09-29 22:49:30, -XYZ wrote:

On 2015-09-29 18:05:24, penguino wrote:
Bad thing for Sony is that they decided to show a new flagship in H2, which means using 9 months old SoC.

Doesn't matter. SoC's are only updated once a year. Doesn't matter if its 0 months old, or 9 months old, performance will be the same, unless they design their own cores.


Sony are not alone using this "old" soc. Hello Nexus!

People are just too obsessed with early adoption.
Why don't they learn that early adoption is not necessarily a good thing.
HTC M9 and Xperia 3+ *cough cough*

I am pretty sure that must people prefer an "old" but hassle free soc over early adoption with quirks that take time to sort out.
GH688, T28, T39 and T68
Nokia 6110, 8110, 8850, 6230, N82
Moto V525 and RAZR V3
Samsung T100, S300 and E700
T68, T610, Z600, T630, K700, S700, V800, K750, S600, M600, S500, P1i, K850, X1 X10, Vivaz
amirprog
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Posted: 2015-09-30 13:24
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A very good decision by sony. 1H - mini tab (z ultra) and z tablet. 2H - main, compact and phablet. A new device is compared to an old or current devices owned or on the market, not to a rumored device that will launch in 6 months or more, bought based on the whole package and after having 2-5 years old device. Moreover, i'm sure they have good reasons to choose this strategy over different one.
@penguino
There are always at least 6 months from ifa to mwc for a new qualcomm cpu devices to appear, not 3-4 months, people don't really care for ces announced devices like g flex, they wait either for mwc or ifa. Sony has strong rivals in both H1 and 2H so competing against the new iphone is natural, expected and welcomed and not different then competing against any other rivals like galaxy s7, lg g5, etc. in 1H.
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