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nodarsixar
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Posted: 2015-09-26 16:36
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Sony's smartphones always have best camera sensor in the market
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ascariss
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Posted: 2015-09-26 17:02
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On 2015-09-26 16:09:17, penguino wrote:
LG's flaghips have always been pretty thick, I think they'll squeeze 1/2" sensor pretty easily.


Not nokia 808 thick a thicker device won't bother me as long as the extra thickness is used wisely.
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Posted: 2015-09-26 18:12
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1/2" sensor isn't that much bigger than 1/2.3" insode very thin Z3+.

On 2015-09-26 16:36:18, nodarsixar wrote:
Sony's smartphones always have best camera sensor in the market

And by far the worst image processing on the market.
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Posted: 2015-09-26 20:33
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oh, I dislike troll :)
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ascariss
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Posted: 2015-09-26 23:32
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On 2015-09-26 18:12:43, penguino wrote:
1/2" sensor isn't that much bigger than 1/2.3" insode very thin Z3+.

On 2015-09-26 16:36:18, nodarsixar wrote:
Sony's smartphones always have best camera sensor in the market

And by far the worst image processing on the market.


True, the difference is marginal, only 3% larger.
kurtdean
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Posted: 2015-09-27 08:21
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On 2015-09-26 18:12:43, penguino wrote:
1/2" sensor isn't that much bigger than 1/2.3" insode very thin Z3+.

On 2015-09-26 16:36:18, nodarsixar wrote:
Sony's smartphones always have best camera sensor in the market

And by far the worst image processing on the market.


Ooh worst image processing. Explain how the midrange Xperia M5 beats the super high end Galaxy Note 5 video camera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bQiMGzBd0w
[ This Message was edited by: kurtdean on 2015-09-27 07:22 ]
nikola1970
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Posted: 2015-09-27 10:42
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M5 has miles better processing then Z5 series and that was clear long ago.
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Posted: 2015-09-27 12:55
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On 2015-09-27 10:42:57, nikola1970 wrote:
M5 has miles better processing then Z5 series and that was clear long ago.


your sentence also disagree with penguino's statement
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Posted: 2015-09-27 14:13
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So laser-guided Auto focus is just another gimmick that doesn't do much for the actual focusing.
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Posted: 2015-09-27 17:31
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On 2015-09-27 08:21:46, kurtdean wrote:
Ooh worst image processing. Explain how the midrange Xperia M5 beats the super high end Galaxy Note 5 video camera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bQiMGzBd0w

This video shows that PDAF autofocus is really good (altough digital stabilization is sometimes too slow on the edges and causes distortion, the image is "floaty"). In terms of picture quality it's a different story. From gsmarena, M5:


Note5:


M5's picture is softer, has less details (look at the trees), it's a so a bit too yellow and dim, it doesn't really look like it was sunny day. Z5 is worse than M5 in terms of quality because there's much more digital noise that kills many details.
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Posted: 2015-09-27 18:06
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The level of exposure is different between both pictures. Perhaps taken at different time hence it is hard to judge. Personally, I like the M5 image more than the Note 5. You can see that the detail on the white roof is more on M5 compared to Note5. The best way to judge for details is to look at lines. Trees are not good indicator because of artefacts (noise) that might be mistaken as details.
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kurtdean
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Posted: 2015-09-27 18:37
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I agree with p910. Xperia m5 has better details than note 5. Just look at the roof lines, M5 beat the hell out of it. Note 5 just oversharpen things that leads to lost of details
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ascariss
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Posted: 2015-09-27 19:27
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Both phones have PDAF, IMX230 for M5, and IMX240 for Note 5, so both should be equally fast for focus. What is interesting is that the Note 5 has 2 stabilization systems, OIS for photos, and VDIS for videos. I believe it works like the iphone 6 plus, which also uses OIS only for photos and turns it off for videos and goes with digital stabilization.

Real world photos are usually good for comparison, but using the GSMArena camera comparison tool for M5 and note 5, shows the following

http://www.gsmarena.com/piccm[....]=1&idPhone1=7431&idPhone2=7464

Using the ISO chart, it feels as if the M5 is sharper than the note 5, scaled to 12mp and not scaled.
MyP910
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Posted: 2015-09-27 21:19
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Yes, the comparison tool on GSMarena is good indication for sharpness and details. Based on that tool, it is clear that M5 has the edge over Note 5. The iphone 6+ is totally crap compared those two.
[ This Message was edited by: MyP910 on 2015-09-28 04:03 ]
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Posted: 2015-09-28 06:20
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Off Topic: Huawei Nexus 6P Camera Gets Detailed Ahead Of Its Official Debut

http://www.gsmarena.com/huawe[....]_official_debut-news-14189.php

Yeah gentlemen, we are on the verge of seeing another smartphone competition, with an image sensor with differentiated technology SONY... If i could bet all my chips, I would say that the new Huawei Nexus 6P uses the image sensor SONY EXMOR R IMX117CQT

www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/c[....]s/img/pdf/vol_70/imx117cqt.pdf

P.S: The New Nexus has everything to be one of the best cameraphones out there, at least in theory !!!
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