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goldenface
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Posted: 2014-09-23 14:19
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But they won't last half as long.
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Posted: 2014-09-23 14:20
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On 2014-09-23 13:00:43, king-james wrote:
I really don't understand the long charging times.

Z2 needs 3.5h, Z3 now 4h!
Z1C 2.5h, Z3C now 3.5h!

It's horrible, the only time when you can charge is over night.

That's because the charger that comes with Sony phones has weak power output usually between 1 - 1.5A.
For comparison LG G3 comes with charger rated at 1.8A and the mighty Oppo 7 at 4.5A.
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Posted: 2014-09-23 14:21
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I had a high powered charger for my Xperia Z. It really makes a difference. I use it on my Xperia U and it charges that to full in about 1h.
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Posted: 2014-09-23 14:29
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Goldenface: why not half so long? You mean almost same.

I have here a Z Ultra, Z2, Z1 Compact, T3, OnePlus One, S5 and a G3. They all reach about 7-10h DOT!
Only the G3 can not, it reach max 6h. A Mega 6.3 is also here, get also about 6-8h DOT.

Hilmawan: I have also tried stronger charger like 2A and 1,8A, it's a bit faster, but the difference is small, cause Sony uses a protection in it's devices.

For example, normal chargetime of my Ultra (3000mAh) need exactly 3h. When I use the 2A charger it needs 2.5h.
The G2 or G3 both 3000mAh battery need with a 1.8A charger only 2h.

Or better example, T3 has 2500mAh battery, the original charger has only 0.85A output, it needs 3.5h for full charging.
I have used then the 1.5A charger, you will wonder, it was only half hour faster, at the end 3h! Although charger is almost twice strong.
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Posted: 2014-09-23 15:06
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On 2014-09-23 14:29:25, king-james wrote:
Goldenface: why not half so long? You mean almost same.

I have here a Z Ultra, Z2, Z1 Compact, T3, OnePlus One, S5 and a G3. They all reach about 7-10h DOT!
Only the G3 can not, it reach max 6h. A Mega 6.3 is also here, get also about 6-8h DOT.

Hilmawan: I have also tried stronger charger like 2A and 1,8A, it's a bit faster, but the difference is small, cause Sony uses a protection in it's devices.

For example, normal chargetime of my Ultra (3000mAh) need exactly 3h. When I use the 2A charger it needs 2.5h.
The G2 or G3 both 3000mAh battery need with a 1.8A charger only 2h.

Or better example, T3 has 2500mAh battery, the original charger has only 0.85A output, it needs 3.5h for full charging.
I have used then the 1.5A charger, you will wonder, it was only half hour faster, at the end 3h! Although charger is almost twice strong.
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fast charging could be degrading your battery too quickly. based on reviews, your G3 should last longer than your z ultra. or is that some typo?
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Posted: 2014-09-23 16:57
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So I've been playing around with the Z3C now for a couple of hours and I must say it's awesome, very tempted to sell my Z1 and buy this little beast of a flagship. The screen and it's brightness are top class so much in fact you could turn it down a notch or 2 and still have a great viewing experience and that will only help the already superb battery life. The audio quality from the front speakers is also very good and a marked improvement over the Z1C but that was always going to be the case. I'm trying to find something wrong with it but I can't, I suppose it gets fairly warm using 4K video but which device doesn't. Build quality and feel in the hand is top notch too, those rounded corners make a big difference in the comfort of the phone I do think it feels better in the hand than the iPhone 6 and the Galaxy Alpha but that's just my own opinion others will disagree.

All in all Sony have set a new level in high end compact smartphones in which they we're already at the top of thanks to the Z1C. The Z3C is simply a joy to use and for those who think the iPhone 6 is just that little to big I would seriously recommend looking at the Z3C, it's not much bigger than the iPhone 5s but has a much larger screen. This is currently the best supermini on the market it's that good infact it could give some of the bigger flagships a run for their money.

I have the Z3C for the rest of tonight and all day tomorrow so if you have any questions or would like to know anything fire away.
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Posted: 2014-09-23 17:25
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@king-james
Although the difference was not significant, I think it's quite normal.
For example according to Phonearena even with 4.5A charger Oppo Find 7 is only 32 minutes faster than G3 with 1.8A Charger.
Each company uses different battery technology and charging types/Methods.
The S801 in the Z3 supports fast charging, but for some reason Sony did not use that feature.
Maybe because Sony prefer little bit slower charging and longer battery life, than faster charging but with short battery life.
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Posted: 2014-09-23 17:41
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1. I want to see how the screen looks with and without super vivid mode,
2. low light video comparison.
3. Ultimate SteadyShot (Intellegent Active Mode) comparison with OIS like the one in Lumia phones.
4. Outdoors visibility comparison.
XperiaJunkie
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Posted: 2014-09-23 17:49
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^ I've got a lend of a Lumia 1020 so I'll see what I can do tonight and tomorrow.
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Posted: 2014-09-23 18:07
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Would be nice to see the ISO2000 video, how dark can you go before it is useless.

Also would be curious if you could find out how to get the iso12800, is it in 8mp only? or the superior auto mode? thanks
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Posted: 2014-09-23 18:44
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On 2014-09-23 17:49:20, XperiaJunkie wrote:
^ I've got a lend of a Lumia 1020 so I'll see what I can do tonight and tomorrow.
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The mighty Lumia 1020 That's perfect, I'm looking forward to it.
thanks and sorry if i'm asking too much.
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Posted: 2014-09-23 18:52
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It's actually a Lumia 930 now my friends 1020 has hideous screen burn so he's letting me use the 930 in its place now.
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Posted: 2014-09-23 20:09
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Lumia 930 is still more than enough.
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Posted: 2014-09-23 23:18
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@XperiaJunkie

How did you find the reflectiveness of the screen? Was it very reflective, i.e. hard to read under bright light?
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Posted: 2014-09-23 23:29
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@goldenface the screen is pretty good to be honest although I didn't get the chance of direct sunlight as it has rained most of the day so I used a few high powered lamps to try and replicate it. The screen was readable and is an improvement over the Z1C which my wife has as I used that as a comparison.
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