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Tsepz_GP
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Posted: 2014-04-28 02:42
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You've got your years completely wrong WRT N97, the iPhone3GS was just about to launch when the N97 arrived, there was mass exodus in that period, many ran to the iPhone3GS when it launched.

N97 arrived in June 2009:
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n97-2615.php

iPhone 3GS also began shipping in June 2009:
http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_3gs-2826.php

The OG iPhone was released in 2007, just after the N95, if I'm not mistaken.


The Nokia N96 was a complete fail, it was meant to bring DVB-H mobile TV to the masses, as well as push Ngage gaming services, by 2010 Nokia had killed off both.

They were focussed on all the wrong things, while N97 came with both a Touchscreen and full QWERTY, its UI was cumbersome and quite bloated, not to mention the N97 came with too little Internal mem, yes it had 32GB mass mem but the memory where app+game data went was too little, and the RAM was tiny to for all those widgets, on top of all that it came with a weak Freescale CPU, a CPU that didn't have a GPU, everything was done by the CPU itself, all that led to an awful experience. I remember the V20 and V21 FWs that were meant to bring major improvements but didn't, Nokia had created a dog of a phone, SE and Samsung had better products with the Satio and OmniaHD but Apple shot past all with the 3GS which at the time had very powerful hardware.

The period between 2007 to 2010 will remain in my memory banks for a long time as after the N95, Nokia made crucial mistakes.
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Posted: 2014-04-28 03:18
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I remember reviews of the N97 saying how slow it was. I also remember an old work mate had the N Gage he looked a right plonker making a call on it. One phone I forgot was the Nokia 7650 I loved that.
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Posted: 2014-04-28 05:07
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On 2014-04-26 21:55:11, XperiaJunkie wrote:
With the sale of Nokia to Microsoft it gets me thinking which will be the next major phone manufacturer to either go bust or forced to sell up. I think the obvious ones would be htc and BlackBerry it is well documented about their financial status and things may not be getting any better especially for BlackBerry who have yet to do anything solid with BB10 and it has been out for over a year. I do think unless they can come up with a serious product to challenge the major flagship devices then I give it 18 months to 2 years and BlackBerry will be no more. Hopefully HTC can start to turn things round the have a fantastic flagship device in the M8 but even that has some flaws of its own which the same didn't help sales of the previous model. Sales of the M8 are said to be good but is it enough to pull them back in the black, only time will tell and fingers crossed both manufacturers can have a few good years and help them get back on track.



There is a LOT more to BB than just their phone sales business .... there is BES which is doing VERY good actually - considering it was ranked the lowest on the magic quadrant and now the top listing again. Funny because they where never ranked until late summer 2013 and they've been in and pretty much started the MDM/EMM business pioneering it with say only Good Technologies and maybe IntelliSync before Nokia purchased and then ultimately sold it to Motorola; which did the same by selling it.

But this converstation is focused on Nokia.

Nokia is NOT dead per sey but I really think they'll evolve into a third business strategy soon enough.
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Posted: 2014-04-28 07:40
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They messed up with Symbian big time.. it was their biggest investment, biggest opportunity, and biggest fail

For anyone who actually cares to learn a bit of history read the following

The saga with Microsoft has been going on for much longer than most people realize

http://www.theregister.co.uk/[....]nokia_microsoft_history?page=2

The history of Symbian is a huge part of that. Microsoft's position in the mobile world today is directly related to Nokia's decision to use Symbian over Windows CE

Part 1: http://www.theregister.co.uk/[....]ory_part_one_dark_star/?page=1

Part 2: http://www.theregister.co.uk/[....]bian_history_part_two_ui_wars/

Part 3: http://www.theregister.co.uk/[....]arles_davies_interview/?page=1

Also Gates's attitude is very clear

http://www.theregister.co.uk/[....]_rails_at_proprietary_symbian/

So all in all Microsoft have been after Nokia's business for a looong time..

I wish them good luck.
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Posted: 2014-04-28 15:00
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On 2014-04-28 03:18:00, Bonovox wrote:
I also remember an old work mate had the N Gage he looked a right plonker making a call on it.



Yeah, that's what we all thought then . But tbh, people with a phablet at their ear look the same now

On a more serious note: Nokia's very talented and passionate people and Microsoft's money could be a good combination, so I hope for a bright future
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Posted: 2014-04-28 15:31
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Ah no that depends on the size of the phablet. My Note 3 isn't all that big. I wouldn't look as silly as I would making a call on an N Gage
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Posted: 2014-04-28 15:41
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http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-readying-new-lumia-5-mp-front-facing-camera

Nokia prepping for a new Lumia with a 5 meg front camera later this year. So will the 930 not be the last with the Nokia name on??
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Posted: 2014-04-28 15:53
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I highly doubt any un released or future products will carry the Nokia brand. Microsoft are fairly ruthless when it comes to branding and I do think the 930 will be the last Nokia branded Lumia device we will ever see.
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Posted: 2014-04-28 20:29
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On 2014-04-28 15:41:00, Bonovox wrote:
http://www.wpcentral.com/noki[....]lumia-5-mp-front-facing-camera



Nokia prepping for a new Lumia with a 5 meg front camera later this year. So will the 930 not be the last with the Nokia name on??



930 won't be the last smartphone with Nokia branding.
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Posted: 2014-04-28 20:30
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They still carrying on with the Asha brand
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Posted: 2014-04-28 20:51
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http://www.neowin.net/news/in[....]more-about-the-finnish-company

http://www.amazon.com/Decline-Fall-Nokia-David-Cord/dp/9515233208

It should be a good read..

"What was the most surprising thing you learned about Nokia's history while you did research for the book?"

"The most surprising thing was that Nokia was very rarely caught off-guard. They knew the industry would move towards touchscreens. They knew ecosystems would become all-important and the internet would go mobile. They courted app developers long before Apple or Google. Despite the fact they knew where the industry was going, they were unable to act. Their organizational structure and culture had devolved into this bureaucratic, inward-looking entity. Theirs was not a failure of foresight; it was a failure in execution."


That pretty much sums up the company. They had touch screen Symbian phones before the iPhone was even an idea.. oh well..
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Posted: 2014-04-28 20:57
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Siemens
Ericsson
Motorola
Sony Ericsson
NOKIA



New age and now we have new players.Sad to see all the old timers go
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Posted: 2014-04-28 21:39
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I used to love Siemens phones
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Posted: 2014-04-28 22:54
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On 2014-04-28 20:57:58, Ranjith wrote:
Siemens
Ericsson
Motorola
Sony Ericsson
NOKIA


If you reverse the order, you will probably be very close to how things were in terms of sales and market share pre-Silicon Valley ..
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Posted: 2014-04-29 20:45
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It used to say Nokia



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