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drsoran2
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It's almost to good to believe - 480fps@1080p! And Qualcoms SD810, which will be available in the beginning of 2015 only manages to achieve 120fps@1080p, that's only a quarter of it.
How is that possible? Is Qualcomm so bad or Mediatek so good? |
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-XYZ
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On 2014-07-15 16:30:30, drsoran2 wrote:
It's almost to good to believe - 480fps@1080p! And Qualcoms SD810, which will be available in the beginning of 2015 only manages to achieve 120fps@1080p, that's only a quarter of it.
How is that possible? Is Qualcomm so bad or Mediatek so good?
No BIG.little? As in having 8 full-fat A57 cores, instead of 4xA57 and 4xA53 that Qualcomm's SD810.
That would mean that this SoC would run HOT. Particularly if the LTE modem isn't integrated into the SoC. |
HxH
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H.265 is your answer folks, this baby supports both playback and record work together with HPM (CorePilot).
I personally believe the modem is separated as well, but need to find more evidence to confirm later.
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XperiaCute
Joined: Jan 03, 2013
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Just how embarrassing Qualcomm is adopting ARM A53\A57 rather producing optimized Krait Architecture with 64bit ARM v8 
I use to believe qualcomm own architecture is better than what ARM producing in battery optimization and modem integration ..
However it was big surprise for me when they goes with ARM core... Right now it seams only Apple and Nvidia were able to produce custom 64bit ARM cores..
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HxH
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No, I don't think it kind of that embarrass, not defending them but NO ONE expect 64bit chipset in 2013
Apple's attack is shaking every chipset designer/maker landscape, the roadmap need to re-think to fight back.
I think Qualcomm is in rush to prevent loss, they have no time for specially design own architecture.
Qualcomm plan to play standard A53-line in affordable with MediaTek
they didn't plan to fight with Apple 64bit on high-end turf, which clearly that the guard was down.
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supercoolman
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On 2014-07-15 17:20:38, HxH wrote:
No, I don't think it kind of that embarrass, not defending them but NO ONE expect 64bit chipset in 2013
Apple's attack is shaking every chipset designer/maker landscape, the roadmap need to re-think to fight back.
I think Qualcomm is in rush to prevent loss, they have no time for specially design own architecture.
Qualcomm plan to play standard A53-line in affordable with MediaTek
they didn't plan to fight with Apple 64bit on high-end turf, which clearly that the guard was down.
Qualcomm thought itself as the leader that no one can beat, so they slowed down or stopped being innovative. result is it got sandwiched from both top and low end. |
Xajel
Joined: Jun 18, 2004
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From: Bahrain
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So let's look a little deeper into the near future
In 1H15 we will have Z4, can we expect Tablet Z4 with it or in the same timeframe ? Beside the Snappy 810 what can we expect any thing else ?
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DACHA
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On 2014-07-15 20:10:59, Xajel wrote:
So let's look a little deeper into the near future
In 1H15 we will have Z4, can we expect Tablet Z4 with it or in the same timeframe ? Beside the Snappy 810 what can we expect any thing else ?
New battery and better display. The new batteries are supposed to last over 30% longer with the same capacity and the new display is supposed to use about 30% less energy. |
Xajel
Joined: Jun 18, 2004
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Awesome, Z2 tablet battery is already good...
Any word about screen resolution ? Still 1200p ?
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Away
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On 2014-07-15 17:20:38, HxH wrote:
No, I don't think it kind of that embarrass, not defending them but NO ONE expect 64bit chipset in 2013
Apple's attack is shaking every chipset designer/maker landscape, the roadmap need to re-think to fight back.
I think Qualcomm is in rush to prevent loss, they have no time for specially design own architecture.
Qualcomm plan to play standard A53-line in affordable with MediaTek
they didn't plan to fight with Apple 64bit on high-end turf, which clearly that the guard was down.
LOL
Explain why the s801 is the flagship SOC a year on from the s800, and there hardly being any difference between the two? Qualcomm was always ahead for their integrated modem, hence I don't really count the s805, but even if I did for whatever stupid reason, what percentage improvement is that in a year? And any improvement is offset by the battery performance loss.
I've said it before and will say it again, I can't recall anyone in this space being so complacent and being caught so off-guard having been a leader in a field besides Qualcomm.
Even nvidia have a chance to catch up - and what they're bringing to the table seems pretty unique - can't wait to see a tablet version of the shield... |
Gitaroo
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really hope that Sony will look into developing their software side more. Keeping things almsot stock android is nice for a while now its starting to look lazy. Still waiting for multi screen support, and small apps looks like they still stucked in 2012. |
vivftp
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Hmm, I wonder what the chances are of Sony using that Mediatek chipset on a future Z series.
Or... Umm... Anyone know if Sony has enough cash reserves to buy Mediatek? 
If a 2015 Sony phone could pull off those camera feats, I wouldn't mind waiting for it. |
Ricky D
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I very much duobt Qualcomm have stood still the last year and let everyone else catch up. It makes absolutely no business sense, Microsoft are the living proof. As a tech company, to stop engineering is to give up on life.
They've probably just rerouted 80-90% of their R&D to the next biggest architecture which will dominate for another 5 years or so. The result is that the inbetween chipsets (S801, 805, 810) are only minor evolutions.
Maybe expect a new chip naming scheme or a S900 series chips next year.
All the above is my speculation only
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AbhiD999
Joined: Oct 28, 2012
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On 2014-07-16 03:42:15, vivftp wrote:
Hmm, I wonder what the chances are of Sony using that Mediatek chipset on a future Z series.
Or... Umm... Anyone know if Sony has enough cash reserves to buy Mediatek?
If a 2015 Sony phone could pull off those camera feats, I wouldn't mind waiting for it.
I hope you don't want ur phone to emit fumes !!
And MTK is a Mtk at the end of the day. I don't think any manufacturer will use this chipset in their flagship let alone sony!
Every time samsung and nvidia have been outing so called "great revolutionary chipsets" that are meant to kill qualcomm but in the end all turn out be half baked failures emitting fumes.
Only Qualcomm provides a one stop solution that fulfills all needs a manufacturer wants! |
HxH
Joined: Dec 26, 2008
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Qualcomm reduce price in lower-end chipset
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]s-MediaTek-not-worried_id58099
and yesterday answer from MediaTek that proof show no worried to the competition.
Only concern of Mediatek chipset is driver supports for newer Android build in long run.
Anyway in I/O 2014 day, Google announced partnership with MediaTek to built Google One below $100 smartphone.
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