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Ranjith
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Posted: 2014-05-29 14:51
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On 2014-05-28 22:11:57, -XYZ wrote:

They say only a HD screen and 3 GB RAM,that would be a disappointment.

Why?


QHD is necessary and 4 gigs of RAM will have an upper hand!


"My phone has bigger numbers than your phone".

Nope. QHD is not necessary as long as most multimedia remains 1080p. Also, all current QHD screens are 5.5 inches, which is way too nice big. Battery life will be needlessly compromised, because the denser Liquid Matrix will require more power in order to achieve the same level of brightness as existing displays. Also the processor will be strained much more, by having to drive more 50% more pixels, which will also reduce battery life.

4GB of RAM is only for dick-waving at this point. 3GB is enough for now.
[ This Message was edited by: -XYZ on 2014-05-28 21:12 ]


Along with G3,SAMSUNG,The Chinese makes and mostly HTC will be dick-waving with QHD's.How will it help SONY if they don't go the same route? SONY fans will buy it but the masses will go for the "Best specs on paper"
HTC's M8 has a pretty good cam in spite of being the UP 4MP,just look around how many people are skipping it because it has "Just a 4mp cam".

about RAM,well by then i suppose 3GB will be the norm,it would greatly help SONY's sales if they had some extras.

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Posted: 2014-05-29 15:01
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On 2014-05-29 02:06:41, -XYZ wrote:
1:1 pixel mapping is always better than any kind of scaling.



Great post

People nowadays ask for unnecessary things, and still end up not being happy with it, a ridiculous amount of resolution on a small screen won't make it any more sharper. Sunlight legibility, color accuracy and response time are more important right now with screens already having sufficient resolution reaching 300ppi.

I just recently got a PS Vita slim which only has a 960x544 res LCD screen, but I was surprised by the very good quality of the screen, games look tack sharp thanks to 1:1 pixel mapping, not to mention it has excellent viewing angles as well even though it's an LCD not an OLED anymore unlike the original Vita.

If there's anything to improve in my opinion it would have to be software, I find it ridiculous that the software (OS and apps) take too much resources just to do something simple. What a waste of hardware potential. Makes me feel that technology didn't really improve that much, even though it did specs wise.
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josephnero
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Posted: 2014-05-29 17:52
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Japan Display Inc. Announces Development of LCD Module Which Applies
Local Dimming Backlight Technology to its white magic

http://www.j-display.com/english/news/2014/20140529.html

It reduces power consumption by 20% compared with conventional "WhiteMagic" modules

I prefer this kind of advances to resolution bump.
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Posted: 2014-05-29 18:47
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^ it's a 7" screen
btw. is there any white magic display on a a recent mobile device?
Last I remember is the Xperia P ?!



In addition to my previous post:

To be honest, I'm totally satisfied with CPU/GPU power, display resolution and quality.
The only thing where I'd love to see some big improvements would be the camera. Yes there already has been a big improvement, but in terms of picture quality (noise, dynamic range, resolution for cropping/zoom, sharpness and low light capabilities) it is very easy to notice a difference (unlike CPU/GPU power where you can only see differences in benchmarks now) or display resolution/quality (it may be enhanced a little more, but it's already so good).

But when it comes to the camera, it will very likely easily struggle when the scene is not bright enough or when the object is too far away that you have to zoom.

But who other than Nokia (which will not do it anymore as Microsoft...) will build that 1" 50MP sensor I'm dreaming about ( )?
Yeah I know I have childish dreams...
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Posted: 2014-05-29 21:48
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I for one would never buy a phone with QHD screen(even if it's from sony) because i do realize all the adverse effects it's gonna have on battery life and processor without any advantage or improvement in usability.
Until 64 bit processors(have enough power to handle QHD) become a norm and these companies prove otherwise that great battery life is possible with all that hardware, i won't EVER buy phone with QHD screen.
Even a lot of other people on diff forums and sites are expressing the same concerns on this BLIND and BULLS*IT screen resolution rat race!
Those who are advocating QHD displays, What will be your response when two yrs later phones with 4K 5" screen come?? Ane go two more yrs further into the future and you will have 8K 5" screen phones !!??
This Crappy blind race just needs to End at some point of time and this is Perfect Time IMO.
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Posted: 2014-05-30 01:34
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Talk about an overreaction of note...

Anyway...

Early reviews are quite positive about the G3's performance, battery life we'll have to see, but I doubt it will be at all as bad as you're trying to make it out to be. LG have a lot at stake, they wouldn't fit a QHD on such an important mass market premium product and not give it the optimization and power management it requires.
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Posted: 2014-05-30 04:45
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Not that this ends the debate or anything, but for those concerned about battery life of a 1440p display:

http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]show-promising-results_id56590
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Posted: 2014-05-30 09:22
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On 2014-05-30 04:45:29, Wintermute wrote:
Not that this ends the debate or anything, but for those concerned about battery life of a 1440p display:

http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]show-promising-results_id56590


If it's that good on a 1440p display, then it would be much better on a 1080p display. And it's not like 1080 us insufficient.....
randomuser
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Posted: 2014-05-30 11:07
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To be frank even 1080p is not required on a mobile device. So whether or not something is actually "required" is not the point as most of the marketing junk by companies including Sony has simply no real utility to the consumers

It's about being on par with the competition, we all know what happened with Sony ericsson when it decided to play safe and remain a generation behind the competition. Sony's sales are down to 8.8 million units now, it doesn't figure in the Top 10 global smartphone vendors list even.

In such a scenario to ditch the latest trend is anything but playing smart. The general customers are not Sony fanboys who are going to accept that 1440p is a waste and choose a 1080p Sony over 1440p Samsung and LG.

The main reason though why at this point Z3 isn't said to sport a QHD panel is lack of availability for Sony. So there is still a chance that they can come out with 1440p panel on Z3 but not a very bright chance though.
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Posted: 2014-05-30 11:27
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If they sell 1080p at a lower price than 1440p then it makes sense and make their phone more compact given that screen size continues to increase. Samsung have kept the S3, S4 and S5 at a similar compact size despite the under the hood upgrades which is very commendable.
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Posted: 2014-05-30 13:14
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ramu went apple? wow, I think I died inside a little
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Posted: 2014-05-30 14:02
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You know that it could also be that since the z3 won't have a 5.5 inch panel that is why makes sense to have 1080p

Maybe the next z ultra will have it? all the other rumours of the htc prime and s5 prime didn't they also have a 5.5 inch display at 1440p?

Either way the qhd display shouldn't be the priority for Sony this year leave it till the next, they should focus on fixing software namely the camera software z2 is pretty much spot on in terms of the hardware software lets it down at times.

Personal opinion I think Sony would be smart to keep its flagship in the 5-5.2 range beyond that is phablet territory, if this keeps going on in a few years the compact will have a display around 5inches :/
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amirprog
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Posted: 2014-05-30 14:10
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@randomuser
Agreed.
is it possible that sony can't have 5.5" QHD for Z3 is because JDI closed a deal with Apple for a very high quantity of the panels so they had to put Sony on hold until next year's flagship?
AbhiD999
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Posted: 2014-05-30 14:16
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On 2014-05-30 04:45:29, Wintermute wrote:
Not that this ends the debate or anything, but for those concerned about battery life of a 1440p display:

http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]show-promising-results_id56590

I would rather not believe that article. It's from some "unknown sources" and "unknown people".
Let's wait for official reviews and battery tests and than see what happens.
alexander87
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Posted: 2014-05-30 15:27
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I'd dig a QHD display on the Z Ultra successor, that would make it my ultimate e-book reader lol.
As for a display size of around 5.2 - 5.5 inch, meh 1080p is cool for now, it provides a sufficient pixel density.
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