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Posted: 2013-10-23 06:48
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On 2013-10-23 06:17:21, rency0722 wrote:
Right. That was I thought though some sorts of camera sensors were made by Sony. In fact, LG G2's 13 MP OIS cam is custom-made by Sony. 13 MP camera from GNote 3 is an IMX135 Exmor-RS sensor, which only enabled 4K recording for Android 4.3

What we need for Sony to make a true cameraphone is to also top it with manual controls. If Cybershot cameras can, Xperia phone should can.

By the way, I was reading all along the article on the hi-res audio on Galaxy Note 3 and LG G2, and in fact, they use Qualcomm WCD9320, which is incorporated on the Snapdragon 800 SoC. This chip is said to deliver 24-bit/192 kHz audio output. In that matter, Xperias with SD800 should also be supporting that hi-res audio.


This post looks attractive to me as I loved Walkman sound and none can deliver the same sound .Is there any android app to play back high resolution audio in case of same audio chipset,?
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Posted: 2013-10-23 08:28
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By the way, is the Walkman app not having an output of hi-res audio? Or is there any hardware needed for this, like the headset jack on the phone?
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Posted: 2013-10-23 10:13
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You'll need both software and hardware and a very good ear (yes I'm not kidding) to at least be able to hear the difference:

dedicated chip that outputs 24-bit/192 kHz audio
software that can play flac format with 24-bit/192 kHz resolution
a very good and properly amped premium headphone (Sennheiser, Audio Technica, AKG, Sony, Beyer, Shure etc.)
and a huge storage since flac format can easily eat up gigs of free space.

Now guys don't hate me for this one, but I don't see the point of 24-bit/192 kHz audio on a mobile phone, at least not now. First of all, hi-fi equipment is pretty much a special equipment, those headphones do not come cheap at all, and some will need an amp depending on construction and their impedance.

Second, sampling rates higher than about 50 kHz to 60 kHz is usually unusable for human ear due to our limitation of hearing. In my personal experience when I tried some flac music the difference between 44khz and 48khz is already very minimal and I'd only notice it if I literally focus on the music and try to concentrate on the highs. I used my ATH SJ33 headphones for that, I might hear a little bit more difference if I have a much more hi-fi headphone but I doubt it.

Third, the music that you're going to play will have to be available in that format, and you cannot convert an mp3 to that format since the data had already been lost upon converting it to an mp3. Audio CD will not work either since they are encoded at 44khz, you'll need at least DVD audio, HD DVD audio or Blu ray sources, re-encode it to flac to take advantage of it.
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Posted: 2013-10-23 13:48
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On 2013-10-23 10:13:04, reeflotz wrote:
You'll need both software and hardware and a very good ear (yes I'm not kidding) to at least be able to hear the difference:

dedicated chip that outputs 24-bit/192 kHz audio
software that can play flac format with 24-bit/192 kHz resolution
a very good and properly amped premium headphone (Sennheiser, Audio Technica, AKG, Sony, Beyer, Shure etc.)
and a huge storage since flac format can easily eat up gigs of free space.

Now guys don't hate me for this one, but I don't see the point of 24-bit/192 kHz audio on a mobile phone, at least not now. First of all, hi-fi equipment is pretty much a special equipment, those headphones do not come cheap at all, and some will need an amp depending on construction and their impedance.

Second, sampling rates higher than about 50 kHz to 60 kHz is usually unusable for human ear due to our limitation of hearing. In my personal experience when I tried some flac music the difference between 44khz and 48khz is already very minimal and I'd only notice it if I literally focus on the music and try to concentrate on the highs. I used my ATH SJ33 headphones for that, I might hear a little bit more difference if I have a much more hi-fi headphone but I doubt it.

Third, the music that you're going to play will have to be available in that format, and you cannot convert an mp3 to that format since the data had already been lost upon converting it to an mp3. Audio CD will not work either since they are encoded at 44khz, you'll need at least DVD audio, HD DVD audio or Blu ray sources, re-encode it to flac to take advantage of it.
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Posted: 2013-10-23 14:07
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November 12 in Shanghai Sony new conference! ! Z1F international version? ? There Code "tianchi" display 6 "720P.MTK. Inexpensive.
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@Huiyi, chances that the chipset would be the 8-core MediaTek?
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On 2013-10-23 14:13:16, razec wrote:
@Huiyi, chances that the chipset would be the 8-core MediaTek?


May not be released "tianchi". Z1F it may not. .8 core MTK Maybe. .
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On 2013-10-23 14:40:16, huiyi wrote:

On 2013-10-23 14:13:16, razec wrote:
@Huiyi, chances that the chipset would be the 8-core MediaTek?


May not be released "tianchi". Z1F it may not. .8 core MTK Maybe. .


You mean "tianchi" may not be released at all?
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On 2013-10-23 14:07:41, huiyi wrote:
November 12 in Shanghai Sony new conference! ! Z1F international version? ? There Code "tianchi" display 6.0" 720p .MTK. Inexpensive.


Xperia C Ultra ..

I wish they announce Xperia Z1F Globally but most likely is not going to happen ..

I even still remember ( Zomg ) saying Tablet Z1 is to be launched somewhere in November ..

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On 2013-10-23 14:50:21, XperiaCute wrote:

On 2013-10-23 14:07:41, huiyi wrote:
November 12 in Shanghai Sony new conference! ! Z1F international version? ? There Code "tianchi" display 6.0" 720p .MTK. Inexpensive.


Xperia C Ultra ..

I wish they announce Xperia Z1F Globally but most likely is not going to happen ..

I even still remember ( Zomg ) saying Tablet Z1 is to be launched somewhere in November ..

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Might not be C Ultra xD .... But I'm sure it's a decent inexpensive phone

and I think Tablet Z1 should be introduced in this conference too.... if not...

Then CES2014 should be the date
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Introduces Japan display, 12.1 inches tablet for the "4K" LCD



October 23, today, Ltd. Japan Display has announced that it has developed a 12.1 inches 4K display tablet.

Product Description is as follows:

Screen Size: 12.1 inches
Screen resolution: 3840 x 2160
Pixel density: 365ppi
Gamut: 365ppi
Screen brightness: 500cd

In addition to be realized in a mobile environment a 4K TV by this product, leave the definition sense equivalent to full HD smartphone, the size of four times, be able to enjoy dynamic image there is a sense of depth is delicate, thin and low power consumption , I realize Bezeruresu, we have to be applicable to high-performance and high-end tablet notebook PC.

This product seems to be which is being held at Pacifico Yokohama up to 25 October 23 to "FPD International 2013".

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Posted: 2013-10-23 16:59
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12 inches for a tablet is too much

Unless it's a hybrid like the VAIO Duo which IMHO should come with a digitizer pen as well
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Posted: 2013-10-23 17:04
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On 2013-10-23 16:59:38, razec wrote:
12 inches for a tablet is too much

Unless it's a hybrid like the VAIO Duo which IMHO should come with a digitizer pen as well



I also look forward to compete with Samsung ATIV with hybrid boot. But I could care less what branding it'll be under, whether VAIO or Xperia.
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On 2013-10-22 10:01:50, amirprog wrote:
My sensible 2014 announcements prediction for the high end devices:
January CES: Z1 Ultra, Tablet Z1
February MWC: Z2

somewhere between: Z2 mini
July: Z2 Ultra
September IFA: Z3
somewhere after: Z3 mini

I would like:
January CES: Tablet Z1
MWC Z1 Ultra
IFA Z2 and Z2 mini.
One flagship on year.

Z2 and Z2 mini with AQ8084, 2.5ghz 20nm, Adreno 420 and 3gb RAM
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Posted: 2013-10-23 17:13
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On 2013-10-23 17:04:17, rency0722 wrote:

On 2013-10-23 16:59:38, razec wrote:
12 inches for a tablet is too much

Unless it's a hybrid like the VAIO Duo which IMHO should come with a digitizer pen as well



I also look forward to compete with Samsung ATIV with hybrid boot. But I could care less what branding it'll be under, whether VAIO or Xperia.


I'd say BIG NO to dual boot with android/windows, I just don't see the point, X86 chips are still hotter and more power hungry, and you just can't play graphics intensive games on a crippled GPU even if it carries the i3 or i5 moniker. forget about windows RT/Android as well it's an even more absurd idea in comparison.

an XPERIA hybrid tablet would mean it carries an ARM chip rather than an X86 one, or it'd be a VAIO product instead

Google must be planning to merge both Chrome OS and Android in the near future, now that's something I'd certainly look forward into
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