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Gitaroo
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Posted: 2014-01-11 17:02
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On 2014-01-11 07:09:01, reeflotz wrote:
Not even PC's have hardware support for 10bit, only software, at least the s800 is powerful enough to handle it through software right? Although that easily drains the battery. Still it's perfect for that triluminous screen

I wish hardware manufacturers supported 10bit. I guess they're too busy making hardware for 4k. But then again 10bit isn't that much mainstream compared to the regular 8bit
[ This Message was edited by: reeflotz on 2014-01-11 06:14 ]



unfortunely S800 is a tad weak for 10bit even, all the video I tested plays ok but sound constant getting cut off and then go out of sync.
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Posted: 2014-01-11 17:07
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Need a dedicated 10-bit Audio chip I would imagine.
Something from Sony's own High-resolution Audio line maybe?
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Posted: 2014-01-11 19:09
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Sony WP smartphone to come in 2014 under the Vaio brand

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Razec... Where are you? The OP is outdated
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Posted: 2014-01-11 20:49
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On 2014-01-11 19:09:05, jonfensu wrote:
Sony WP smartphone to come in 2014 under the Vaio brand

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Razec... Where are you? The OP is outdated
[ This Message was edited by: jonfensu on 2014-01-11 18:10 ]



http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]-phone-devices-says-digitimes/

"reports that Sony will use ODM Compal Communications to launch at least one to two models "

Wonder if this will mean no IP58 certification, large sensor camera and higher end build quality. Vaio brand does make sense but not sure where will be positioned, high or mid end.
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Posted: 2014-01-11 20:58
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They will probably just take one of the xperias and make a WP-phone out of it. The next WP update will bring on-sceen buttons so phone makers can reuse their designs
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Posted: 2014-01-11 21:22
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Here's a video wich shows the LIFELOG APP at works on a Z1S and the LED on the Smartband

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa2Kx5HCzdA
it seems good , maybe a bit samsungish but with Sony Style

Here's a video comparison with the LG Lifeband and his companion app

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNNeHjB84TI
It seems waaaaaaaay more uncomfortable, big and hard, not soft... surely it has a screen, but on that side Sony already has the Smartwatch2... the sony seems way better and practical for its usage!
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Posted: 2014-01-12 03:17
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@Gitaroo

oh, I guess it's not yet enough then, I remember someone posted they were able to play 10 bit mkv just fine on an s800, but maybe it's a 720p one not 1080p.


On 2014-01-11 17:07:42, -XYZ wrote:

Need a dedicated 10-bit Audio chip I would imagine.
Something from Sony's own High-resolution Audio line maybe?


10 bit refers to the color depth of the video. Audio is not related to it. Most likely there isn't enough processing power left to keep the audio in sync, 10 bit video is very heavy to decode in software.

and.. apologies for the offtopic mods.
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Posted: 2014-01-12 04:31
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Hey! Lets start the rumors

What could be the specs of D6503 and D5303 (SoC, Camera, Features etc?

And I also have a little question for insiders...
Will Sony release a D5502 phone ? I mean the Z1-C without LTE (?)
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Posted: 2014-01-12 04:52
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On 2014-01-12 03:17:56, reeflotz wrote:
@Gitaroo

oh, I guess it's not yet enough then, I remember someone posted they were able to play 10 bit mkv just fine on an s800, but maybe it's a 720p one not 1080p.


On 2014-01-11 17:07:42, -XYZ wrote:

Need a dedicated 10-bit Audio chip I would imagine.
Something from Sony's own High-resolution Audio line maybe?


10 bit refers to the color depth of the video. Audio is not related to it. Most likely there isn't enough processing power left to keep the audio in sync, 10 bit video is very heavy to decode in software.

and.. apologies for the offtopic mods.




there are many encoding parameters/mode for 10-bit. player could support one thing in 10-bit, but not others. same goes for 8-bit, but most of the 8-bit issues were resolved in the past few years of development
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Posted: 2014-01-12 05:40
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I tested another player archos or something, play perfectly for the first minute when it looks like the s800 gets too hot and started downclocking and thing gets really chopping. Sign.... maybe mediatek octo core can handle it, supposedly its performance is much more consistence. I believe theres already hardware decoding for 10bit mkv with LAV on pc.
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Posted: 2014-01-12 06:39
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On 2014-01-11 15:13:29, ascariss wrote:
@amirprog

I was in the same boat, when I heard sony was making a note competitor, I was excited and was definitely going to buy it, but once it was released, it was too large, had no integrated pen, and it was not wacom. I honestly do not need to use a pencil on a screen, I'd rather use a wacom pen from the device.

I have no idea how the sales of the ZU are right now, but I don't think it made any dents in the phablet market at all.

So maybe, just maybe Sony will realize the mistake and redo their ZU for the next gen?


In my country ZU sales is too hight... most of these peoples already bought it and want to sell it back.. reason ? too big for them.. not a guess... but the reason for why selling it shortly after buying... but few like it but didn't liked the lake of LED flash, they plan to buy Note2/3/Max...

Personally I liked Max more than Ultra even the design and feel of Ultra is one of its kind.. but other factors plays a major rule, the gap is too big for an already big phone. and lack of LED flash light is a killer... not to mention the small battery...

For me, Ultra will be perfect if Sony omitted the thinny profile of the phone, doing only this will allow them to squeeze the gaps around the screen, adding larger battery, LED flash, and a space for built it Wacom stylus !!

They just took the Thin feature too seriously...
Ricky D
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Posted: 2014-01-12 07:56
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@anybody:

Is Z Ultra 2 likely to be on the shelves before winter 2014 (my next upgrade date)?

i.e. with the supposed luke warm reaction from the market and even the fans in this forum is it likely to be cancelled?
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2014-01-12 07:31 ]
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Posted: 2014-01-12 10:35
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@Xajel
most would choose note 3>1520>max/z ultra. the people who decided to release the z ultra like it is need to be fired imo. the least that they should have done is give it a lower price tag. i hope the next z ultra have better specs then the z2, not only a LED flash, if they are going to announce it in July, and if the specs are missing then give it a lower price tag.
@Ricky D
if a company don't have a new phablet to offer every year then they better close their business now.
@jonfensu
assuming D6503 is the 1H flagship, improvements over z1:
5.2" FHD LTPS IPS LCD+triluminos (maybe sony is hinting whitemagic? = "sirius" is the brightest star)
the newer s800
3GB ram
32GB as standard
same camera (i hope with better processing, low light shooting and more stabilization)
dual LED, 4K ready
3500mAh
same z1 dimensions with narrower bezel
exposed mini usb port (like the core has)
i hope gloves mode and no shatter film
4.4 kitkat
new software features
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Posted: 2014-01-12 13:06
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I'd personally prefer they go down to 4.7 inch FHD, and slim down the bezels enough to make it a Moto X kind of size.
5.2 inch, I suppose is better for a device of the Z1's size, but I still think that's a little too large for a mainstream flagship.
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Posted: 2014-01-12 13:52
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On 2014-01-12 04:31:01, jonfensu wrote:
Hey! Lets start the rumors

What could be the specs of D6503 and D5303 (SoC, Camera, Features etc?

And I also have a little question for insiders...
Will Sony release a D5502 phone ? I mean the Z1-C without LTE (?)


Doubtful the Z1 compact would ship without LTE, wouldn't make sense, unless a 3G model would be cheaper but I doubt it, most consumers prefer to have LTE if it is available in their area.

As for the specs for the other phones, well, compact is D5503, so D6503 could be this 5.2" device slated for MWC, so probably new qualcoom 8974-AB cpu, camera, I feel the same sensor as the Z1 and features? who knows, probably IP58 again. What worries me is once this 5.2 inch phone hits MWC, what will be left for IFA? Will sony pull a samsung and introduce their yearly flagship at the start of the year along with HTC and samsung and then a Note phablet in september to compete against the Note?

D5303 is probably some mid-range model? I would feel replacing the xperia C or SP? Unless teh Z1c is replacing the SP?
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