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TeeGee
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You shouldn't talk about things you don't know, Damian Dinning left for private reasons, he wanted to work in the UK, closer to his family.
Live and let live, how hard can it be ?
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mlife
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On 2014-04-18 19:10:39, fbloise wrote:
How am i supposed to appreciate the "downgrade" Nokia made with the 1020 (from a 808 user perspective) ???
From an ease of use/UI perspective... not by far from an IQ standpoint.... I struggled for a long time about the 1020 until I realised that the beauty of the device is its low light ability and fun smart cam features. For the times I want pure IQ, there is simply no comparison (IMO)
On 2014-04-18 19:10:39, fbloise wrote:
the 1020 to me is p.o.s., I felt cheated buying hardware from 2012 at premium 2014 prices. The only difference between the 1020 and the Lumia 920 is the camera and 1GB extra of ram.
 I guess I can't really disagree here but I only paid 199USD for mine and got the camera grip included.. well worth 200 bucks for the optical stabilization, manual control and DNG files (for me at least)
On 2014-04-18 19:10:39, fbloise wrote:
The photos are not any good (compared to the 808 and color wise, to the SGS5). At first, I thought it was me, at the end ALL photos for good or for worse has that yellowish tint.
I've never used and S5 so I can't really comment there but you are right compared to the 808.... however for messin' around and MMS, it's fine for me Mon-Fri... 808 is for weekends and vacation when IQ matters 
On 2014-04-18 19:10:39, fbloise wrote:
No wonder why Damian Dining left the company. Jukka stole his place IMHO and didn't do a better job.
I like you opinion on this one
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aussieland1
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On 2014-04-18 19:10:39, fbloise wrote:
How am i supposed to appreciate the "downgrade" Nokia made with the 1020 (from a 808 user perspective) ???
the 1020 to me is p.o.s., I felt cheated buying hardware from 2012 at premium 2014 prices. The only difference between the 1020 and the Lumia 920 is the camera and 1GB extra of ram.
The photos are not any good (compared to the 808 and color wise, to the SGS5). At first, I thought it was me, at the end ALL photos for good or for worse has that yellowish tint.
No wonder why Damian Dining left the company. Jukka stole his place IMHO and didn't do a better job.
i had a look at quite a few links with camera review for lumia 1020 after black but i can't see the yellowish tint that you are referring to.
while you are right to have your opinion on Lumia 1020 the fact that it is 2012 hardware hardly makes it a pos. WP8 is designed to run smoothly on less impressive hardware . Also you say you felt cheated that it has the same hardware as lumia 920..., didn't you know that before buying it?
I can only lol at your Damian Dining comment ... Anyway here is a link on how he really feels about the Nokia Lumia 1020
http://pureviewclub.com/2013/17346
And about GS5 vs Lumia 1020 is it now just the colours that are more accurate in Samsung? Because your previous posts seen to suggest that the camera in general is better in GS5? Which one is it? Because there us more than his accurate the colour are to the overall image quality?
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Dxomark opinion :
"Testers were pleasantly surprised by the Lumia's color depth and dynamic range but found the sensor's small pixel pitch to restrict performance in low light."
More here:
http://m.connect.dpreview.com[....]a-lumia-1020-raw-image-quality
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mlife
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On 2014-04-18 20:09:09, aussieland1 wrote:
I can only lol at your Damian Dining comment ... Anyway here is a link on how he really feels about the Nokia Lumia 1020
I pretty sure fbloise was just being "funny"... I'm not trying to speak for him but that's just how I read it
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aussieland1
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On 2014-04-18 20:31:37, mlife wrote:
I pretty sure fbloise was just being "funny"... I'm not trying to speak for him but that's just how I read it
Cheers- I didn't read it that way but if that's the case then no worries thanks for explaining his post  |
cu015170
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Dining left because of all the changes that were about to happen at Nokia, just like most of the Nokia engineers that are now at Jolla. It happens.. things change, people move along.
I don't think that the 1020 can be considered a "post Dining" project.. at least not completely. The technology they are using on the 1020 was mostly developed for the 808.
The optics design, the oversampling, the zooming, rich recording, etc. All of those things we in development under DD's supervision, and they still deliver.
The 1520/Icon camera module might be considered a post DD project, but we really can't be sure. From the looks of it they've done a fairly good job.
I hope that most of the imaging team can remain intact after the Microsoft acquisition.. I am sure that they will loose some people, but hopefully the main guys stick around.
Microsoft has no imaging expertise whatsoever, so.. its in their best interest to retain talent. |
fbloise
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At least someone gets it. 
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Bonovox
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Samsung's GS5 photos are worse than GS4. They are terrible. The phone is crap too hardly an upgrade. When i been using the 1520 it has been a fantastic camera and there is none of that slowness of the 1020. Takes wonderful photos
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aussieland1
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On 2014-04-19 10:08:00, Bonovox wrote:
Samsung's GS5 photos are worse than GS4. They are terrible. The phone is crap too hardly an upgrade.
That's very subjective - they definitely not look worst to me (compared to s4) and definitely not terrible (no review has found them terrible so far). Also the phone being crap that's a big overstatement . But either way why post all this in the lumia 1020 thread? |
aussieland1
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On 2014-04-18 23:36:17, cu015170 wrote:
Dining left because of all the changes that were about to happen at Nokia, just like most of the Nokia engineers that are now at Jolla. It happens.. things change, people move along.
I don't think that the 1020 can be considered a "post Dining" project.. at least not completely. The technology they are using on the 1020 was mostly developed for the 808.
The optics design, the oversampling, the zooming, rich recording, etc. All of those things we in development under DD's supervision, and they still deliver.
The 1520/Icon camera module might be considered a post DD project, but we really can't be sure. From the looks of it they've done a fairly good job.
I hope that most of the imaging team can remain intact after the Microsoft acquisition.. I am sure that they will loose some people, but hopefully the main guys stick around.
Microsoft has no imaging expertise whatsoever, so.. its in their best interest to retain talent.
Just wanted to say that I agree 100% with what you said. I also hope that Microsoft will not let all the work Nokia did on imaging go to waste it would be such a shame |
mlife
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On 2014-04-19 10:26:01, aussieland1 wrote:
Just wanted to say that I agree 100% with what you said. I also hope that Microsoft will not let all the work Nokia did on imaging go to waste it would be such a shame
I don't think it matters in the grand scheme of things... even if nokia never made another flagship camera phone again their work has already raised the flag. Other companies like samsung and sony are still to this day chasing down the 808 so its only a matter of time till we get another company to leap forward. Also, Sony has really taken a slap to the face from nokia ever since the N95 and are making leaps and bounds in re-establishing their name as a premier mobile imaging products. I for one am very excited to see what's on the horizon because IMO we're at a WIN/WIN crossroads here.... Either Nokia amazes us again via the Microsoft camp or Sony truly drops a bomb to wow us - either way, its coming and with symbian now dead, I really don't care from where as I only care about IQ when buying a phone.
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fbloise
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After the symbian demise and the trojan horse story (y'all know how that ended), I stopped being a fanboy of any brand. So sorry for touching somebody's nerve when I talk bad about the 1020, I talk based on my experience and using one for almost 3 months.
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aussieland1
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On 2014-04-19 16:33:18, fbloise wrote:
After the symbian demise and the trojan horse story (y'all know how that ended), I stopped being a fanboy of any brand. So sorry for touching somebody's nerve when I talk bad about the 1020, I talk based on my experience and using one for almost 3 months.
If you were referring to me you didn't touch my nerve. But seeing that this is an open/public forum I questioned your statements as from all the reviews/photos posted online I honestly can't see what you are talking about
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aussieland1
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On 2014-04-19 15:53:59, mlife wrote:
I don't think it matters in the grand scheme of things... even if nokia never made another flagship camera phone again their work has already raised the flag. Other companies like samsung and sony are still to this day chasing down the 808 so its only a matter of time till we get another company to leap forward. Also, Sony has really taken a slap to the face from nokia ever since the N95 and are making leaps and bounds in re-establishing their name as a premier mobile imaging products. I for one am very excited to see what's on the horizon because IMO we're at a WIN/WIN crossroads here.... Either Nokia amazes us again via the Microsoft camp or Sony truly drops a bomb to wow us - either way, its coming and with symbian now dead, I really don't care from where as I only care about IQ when buying a phone.
Agreed still with Nokia pushing the photo taking capabilities I would love it if they wouldn't stop here-they seemed the only ones genuinely interested in improving the image quality/maybe Apple too to some extent. I especially like what they did with photos taken in low light-they are still above competition here IMO. But yes as you said it doesn't matter who will produce and excellent camera phone next -as long as it will come out
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emerson_shei
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Photo real test smartphones in 2014
http://mobile-review.com/articles/2014/phototest.shtml
Spoiler: Nokia Lumia 1020 PureView Wins  |
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Posted: 2014-04-18 19:34
