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wthc
Joined: Jul 04, 2013
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Only in Nokia 808 gallery there’s always extreme colors saturation, yes it’s an user’s desire, a forced desire for the poor/wrong colors in auto mode. You mistake natural colors with dull/wrong colors.
Comparing 808 colors with a camera like Sony Rx100 at iso 100, Nokia on the left Sony on the right:
http://www.magezinepublishing[....]2012-06-26-0072_1340898341.jpg
http://www.magezinepublishing[....]iso100-DSC01120_1343909973.jpg
http://www.dpreview.com/revie[....]08/boxshot/2012-07-26-0596.jpg
http://www.dpreview.com/revie[....]_dscrx100/boxshot/dsc00472.jpg
In this case Rx100 get 3.18 ∆C in the ColorChecker test, my little camera with smaller sensor get 2.77 ∆C, Nokia 808 is way too far from real colors.
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false_morel
Joined: Feb 24, 2010
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On 2013-10-26 01:47:50, cu015170 wrote:
The 808 has manual settings for contrast, color, and saturation.. if you see a photo that is saturated that is user desired. If you shoot in auto the color reproduction is very much like the N8, neutral/natural, and I am hoping that Nokia are going back to that with the next 1020 camera update.
wthc meant extreme saturation on the low end not the high end of the scale!
Nokia went with neutral colors with the N8/808 which is not the right approach for auto and especially on smartphones!
IN the N8 times, compared to the cartoonish colors other smartphones made at the time, it seemed way more pleasing and natural.
But now all OEMs adjusted that, the iPhone imo delivers the best colors by a far shot currently.
If Nokia goes back to 808 saturation, contrast, and sharpness levels they would be shooting themselves in the foot this time over.
EDIT:[b] Besides, you showed us what these picture control settings do on the 808 and they are a joke same as they were on the N8. Can't tell what Nokia were thinking when coding that!
They need to go the standard approach. Go iPhone 4s to 5s way.
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Bonovox
Joined: Apr 13, 2008
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an4ySOlsUMY
Ellie Goulding's new video has the the Lumia 1020 nearly the whole of the video. I went to see her last December 
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Bonovox
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That video of Ellie Goulding the whole thing was shot on the 1020 
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cu015170
Joined: Oct 26, 2010
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First RAW samples
http://conversations.nokia.co[....]igital-negatives-raw-dng-lumia
files: https://skydrive.live.com/?ci[....]10786&authkey=!AF9wh0io5FlbAPk
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mlife
Joined: Jan 16, 2003
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got my white 1020 yesterday with the camera grip... I am taking a few days to feel my way around and will post some samples soon....
... in the meantime a gratuitous group shot 
*photo taken with the wifes 920 
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mlife
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All in all, a fun phone to have - below are some of my first shots with the phone just messing around.
This photos were taken a night just to see how easy it was to hand-hold night shots....
This was just me messing around with some macro shots... the beer shot was my simply laying the phone on top of the beer glass to see if it would focus on the bottom.
Some low light indoor shots... for the wine glass, the phone was stood up on the end (using camera grip) like a table-pod and the shot at the bar was hand held.....
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cu015170
Joined: Oct 26, 2010
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Very nice summery.. thank you for the effort and the feedback! Its always nice to get some feedback from an actual user who knows what their talking about.
The 1020 has tons of potential.. I am really looking forward to see your photos after the lumia black and the RAW support come out. It should be better in terms of signal to noise ratio and a bit better color reproduction.
And I agree.. what we are discussing here doesn't concern most users out there. The 1020 is in fact more than most of us really need for day to day photography.
In terms of low light, the 808 is unusable at anything lower than 1/20 ... you really need a tripod, where the 1020 can probably handle 1/10 or even lower.
I still feel like if you put the 808 on a tripod and set the iso to 50 it will produce a cleaner image overall, but I might be wrong.. I haven't really had a chance to test them myself so if you ever get a chance give them a go.
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Bonovox
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Here is an 11 minute video entirely shot using the 1020 featuring singer Ellie Goulding whom I seen live last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEcnQ6M8d3k&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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fbloise
Joined: Dec 14, 2002
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Jumped in the wagon as well:
quick review:
camera is NOT better than the 808, including the xenon, is not powerful as 808. However after the 808, is the best camera, it beats iphones, Galaxy S, Xperias, etc...
A Mobile-Photographer's dream.
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mlife
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On 2013-11-24 19:51:24, fbloise wrote:
That's odd.... you're phones are also off by a minute each.... I noticed this on my 808 and 1020 too. No matter which phone has the sim card in it, they are always a minute off and I have the time auto set via network??? I wonder why this is?
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cu015170
Joined: Oct 26, 2010
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vs. N95
http://www.allaboutsymbian.co[....]a_imaging-seven_years_of_p.php
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Miki69
Joined: May 22, 2002
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From: Vienna
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1020 vs 1520:
http://pureviewclub.com/2013/19245
Have to say I'm pretty amazed what Nokia pulled with 1520 camera
@cu015170,
congrats mate, still torn should I get 1020 or wait for its successor 
(if you decide to make extensive comparison, maybe you focus on (yet again) Symbian vs. WP). I've played around with Lumia 920, and somehow I'm not into WP, but I like it more and more....
Cheers,
Miki
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cu015170
Joined: Oct 26, 2010
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thanks man, but I don't have a 1020... planning on waiting for MWC and see what Microsoft have in store in terms of camera. Hopefully something based on Snapdragon 805
As far as Symbian vs. WP.. each one has it's strengths and weaknesses. WP has a lot of potential but I think it will take another 24 months to get it up to speed.
Symbian is very mature already.. it works perfectly well for me as a main smartphone. I don't think that I would use it on anything else but the 808 tho. |
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