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cu015170
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Posted: 2013-08-12 20:44
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On 2013-08-11 23:56:25, G3ORGE wrote:
Compare these pictures.

1020

http://i.imgur.com/h4UfvMc.jpg

808

http://www.esato.com/phonepho[....]ureview/201308111953K07Yc0.jpg


Look at the pictures at 100% zoom. 1020 is terrible!
[ This Message was edited by: G3ORGE on 2013-08-11 22:56 ]



imgur adds even more jpeg compression to the images.. that 1020 shot would look better if you had the original jpeg.


On 2013-08-12 02:10:24, wthc wrote:
You’re wrong about the colors fidelity, they’re dull with pinky red. Always. That’s the big problem of 808.


Err.. you can do whatever your heart desires with the 808.. even in terms of colors. If you want vivid/saturated colors just bump it up in the settings, its no big deal.

There are plenty of examples in the gallery here on Esato.
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Posted: 2013-08-12 22:55
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On 2013-08-12 20:44:10, cu015170 wrote:
Err.. you can do whatever your heart desires with the 808.. even in terms of colors. If you want vivid/saturated colors just bump it up in the settings, its no big deal.


Cu, the photos speak themselves, I’m not the only one that can see wrong colors with 808.

808 on the left - Rx100 on the right

Original photo

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The wall is bluish, red is pinkish, and so on.

808 photo +40% saturation - Rx100

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You can boost the saturation but you will not get the right colors, need something else.

Photo source: techradar.com
cu015170
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Posted: 2013-08-12 23:16
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Yes, in certain conditions it might be off... personally I've never had an issue with the color reproduction overall. Yes, it is indeed neutral/natural but I think that was their goal while Dinning was still on board.. that way they are easier to manipulate later.

Also, ever since the N8 the algorithm tends to be on the colder/blue side anyway..

In the above example, you could reduce BLUE and increase RED a bit and see if it gets any better.

No camera is perfect.. its just the way it is.
[ This Message was edited by: cu015170 on 2013-08-12 22:19 ]
Sonysta
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Posted: 2013-08-12 23:20
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In fact no camera is perfect, but between the camera phones that most approaches perfection is present in Nokia 808 !
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Posted: 2013-08-14 10:37
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Lumia 1020 vs 808 video review -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy-zcAgr_H0&feature=share&list=UUO_vmeInQm5Z6dEZ6R5Kk0A

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Posted: 2013-08-14 11:45
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The information given in this video are wrong!

The correct power flash 1020 is 3 meters!

And the minimum focus range of 20 cm is 808!

This information can be properly documented in the white paper for both devices !

No more this video only shows how superior the 808 is compared to 1020 (mostly in daylight images) !
cu015170
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Posted: 2013-08-14 16:32
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as pointed out by Sonysta .. superior edge sharpness on the 808

http://pureviewclub.com/2013/16029

808
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7306/9502571016_7337303a13_o.jpg



1020
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5530/9502570412_20e9618460_o.jpg

Bonovox
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Posted: 2013-08-14 19:37
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The usual Nokia oil painting look to images again.
Phone?? What phone??
cu015170
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Posted: 2013-08-14 20:31
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They made a mistake by releasing the 808 to the public... it set the bar so high that now everyone expects something even better..

It ain't gonna happen anytime soon
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Marly
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Posted: 2013-08-14 20:50
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Richard Dorman's (@Sheridan01 on Twitter) Flickr with Lumia 1020 photos:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sheridan01/sets/72157634989809893/

Some excellent pics there, especially, when considering, that he's been using it for less than a week.

Haven't uploaded any of the photos here, because compression on the forum doesn't make pictures look good, as we all know (and some prefer to forget), and I didn't want to do that to Richard's pics, knowing how much effort he's put in them and how succesful they are on Flickr (already 3 of them made it to Explore!).
So, when you're interested, have a look at them yourself and enjoy beautiful Finland!


edit: Fixed typo in Richards Twitter handle
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Posted: 2013-08-14 21:01
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On 2013-08-14 20:31:19, cu015170 wrote:
They made a mistake by releasing the 808 to the public... it set the bar so high that now everyone expects something even better..

It ain't gonna happen anytime soon


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davidsic
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Posted: 2013-08-14 21:39
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@ Marly, those ones seems no suffer of corner softness

Thanks for the link.
G3ORGE
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Posted: 2013-08-15 00:34
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On 2013-08-14 20:31:19, cu015170 wrote:
They made a mistake by releasing the 808 to the public... it set the bar so high that now everyone expects something even better..

It ain't gonna happen anytime soon
[ This Message was edited by: cu015170 on 2013-08-14 19:31 ]



That is true.

Considering Damian Dinning and other engineers left Nokia, I doubt there is going to be a cameraphone from Nokia that beats 808.

Nokia seems to be chasing the iPhone and Galaxy S in producing unrealistic, bad images, instead of setting trends like they did with 808. The thing is though, iPhone and Galaxy S are actually improving and moving in the opposite direction, towards better and more realistic images.
[ This Message was edited by: G3ORGE on 2013-08-14 23:35 ]
mlife
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Posted: 2013-08-15 01:56
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On 2013-08-14 20:31:19, cu015170 wrote:
They made a mistake by releasing the 808 to the public... it set the bar so high that now everyone expects something even better..

It ain't gonna happen anytime soon
[ This Message was edited by: cu015170 on 2013-08-14 19:31 ]



I'm not so sure it was a mistake, I don't look at it that way. Maybe it was Nokia's way of rewarding its true loyals with one last HOORA which they knew would take QUITE AWHILE to surpass knowing that it was the last symbian. .... one final "thank you" if you will for all of us that bought one.


[ This Message was edited by: mlife on 2013-08-15 00:57 ]
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G3ORGE
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Posted: 2013-08-15 18:21
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There was somebody selling a brand new 808 in the local ads two weeks ago for a pretty decent price, I wish I had bought it.
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