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Samsung ordered to pay Apple more than $1Billion after jury says they Stole patented iPhone designs |
julias
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Samsung ordered to pay Apple more than $1BILLION after jury says they STOLE patented iPhone designs - and now faces having to pull ALL their cellphones and tablets from the U.S.
Californian jury ordered Samsung to pay Apple $1.05 billion
Apple plan to formally demand Samsung pull its most popular cellphones and computer tablets from the U.S. market
They can also ask the judge to triple the damages to $3 billion
Samsung has emerged as one of Apple's biggest rivals and has overtaken them as the leading smartphone maker
Samsung sold 22.7 million smartphones and tablets that Apple claimed uses its technology
After seeing Samsung's legal defeat, other device makers relying on Android may become more reluctant to use the software and risk getting dragged into court
Apple could also call for import ban on rival's products in other territories
Samsung plan to appeal
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ILoveBhe
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This is a big slap on samsung's face. May weaken android a little bit and maybe just maybe the break stephen elop is waiting for.
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julias
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This isn't good news for Samsung or Android as a whole..The iBeast just got even bigger! |
rikken
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American court - american judge - american jury all protecting an american company. . . . . . . .
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julias
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On 2012-08-25 17:49:20, rikken wrote:
American court - american judge - american jury all protecting an american company. . . . . . . .
SO TRUE! |
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On 2012-08-25 17:49:20, rikken wrote:
American court - american judge - american jury all protecting an american company. . . . . . . .
Bullshit because Samsung has lot a few battles in Germany, UK, and even in their homeland Korea!
Still it's a BIG smack in the face and kick in the ass for Sammy and NO stone was overlooked no documents missed except the equally purged documents on BOTH sides. There is NOTHING new in proof or details that can be brought to any world court.
Also you have NO clue the nationalities of all the jurers so stating "American" is a fallacy - you don't have to be an American citizen to be on jury duty.
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Samsung is not only guilty of copying the design. I guess what where they are actually guilty of here was the INTENT of bringing Apple down. I mean...just look at the photos of iP4s & Galaxy Ace side by side, it's no brainer.
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julias
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This is very sad because the Smartphone market will just become a one horse race! |
worf1000
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On 2012-08-25 17:49:20, rikken wrote:
American court - american judge - american jury all protecting an american company. . . . . . . .
Finely, the Copycat get finally what they deserve.
All more than 12 years Samsung violation of other innovative companies why Samsung is large it is today.
And not to forget that Samsung also has had many years government support.
1.05 billion is way to low, they should at least 20 billion to pay all companies they have copied.
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On 2012-08-25 19:32:53, julias wrote:
This is very sad because the Smartphone market will just become a one horse race!
Melodramatic at best. The same could e said for Nokia's S60 and it was for a time maybe it was. However Samsung, LG, SonyEricsson did quite well in those days. Apple came from NOTHING till now so there will be innovations. Cyomagen mod will be the premier source and I'm super sure those developers are extremely happy of this decision because they'll get paid!!
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Funny enough, the Galaxy Ace was thrown out along with international S2 and S3.
Many of the infringing devices are legacy ones, and with Samsung averaging a good +1.5billion USD in income per month, the damages arent going to affect them that much.
What this will do is force some OEMs out of the US Market, and the US consumers are going to lose out, there's no "real" winner here, in the short term, yes, Apple, long term? By forcing Samsung to innovate Apple have dug themselves a grave, as we've seen over the years, Samsung adapts quickly and is just as cable of creating their own category of device e.g. Galaxy Note, their R&D dep. is on overdrive now im sure.
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Bullshit because Samsung has lot a few battles in Germany, UK, and even in their homeland Korea!
Yeah, and most of them finished with sentence "You can't patent something as trivial as rectangular shape, patent is invalid" Same patents that US court decided Samsung was infringing. Funny isn't it?;] |
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On 2012-08-25 19:49:31, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Funny enough, the Galaxy Ace was thrown out along with international S2 and S3.
Many of the infringing devices are legacy ones, and with Samsung averaging a good +1.5billion USD in income per month, the damages arent going to affect them that much.
What this will do is force some OEMs out of the US Market, and the US consumers are going to lose out, there's no "real" winner here, in the short term, yes, Apple, long term? By forcing Samsung to innovate Apple have dug themselves a grave, as we've seen over the years, Samsung adapts quickly and is just as cable of creating their own category of device e.g. Galaxy Note, their R&D dep. is on overdrive now im sure.
The 1.5B USD is just a bonus. proven guilty in court is something else. |
rikken
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In two instances, results were crazily contradictory, and the judge had to have the jury go back and fix the goofs. As a result the damages award was reduced to $1,049,343,540, down from $1,051,855,000. For just one example, the jury had said one device didn't infringe, but then they awarded Apple $2 million for inducement. In another they awarded a couple of hundred thousand for a device they'd ruled didn't infringe at all. This all was revealed by The Verge in its live blog coverage:
The jury appears to have awarded damages for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE infringing $219,694 worth but didn't find that it had actually infringed anything....A similar inconsistency exists for the Intercept, for which they'd awarded Apple over $2 million
Intercept: "The jury found no direct infringement but did find inducement" for the '915 and '163 utility patents. If a device didn't infringe, it would be rather hard for a company to induce said non-existant infringement.
Obviously, something is very wrong with this picture. The Verge also reported that the jury foreman, who is a patent holder himself, told court officials that the jury didn't need the answer to its question to reach a verdict:
The foreman told a court representative that the jurors had reached a decision without needing the instructions.
That's why I don't think this jury's ruling will stand, among other reasons.
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worf1000
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On 2012-08-25 19:59:24, titus1 wrote:
On 2012-08-25 19:49:31, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Funny enough, the Galaxy Ace was thrown out along with international S2 and S3.
Many of the infringing devices are legacy ones, and with Samsung averaging a good +1.5billion USD in income per month, the damages arent going to affect them that much.
What this will do is force some OEMs out of the US Market, and the US consumers are going to lose out, there's no "real" winner here, in the short term, yes, Apple, long term? By forcing Samsung to innovate Apple have dug themselves a grave, as we've seen over the years, Samsung adapts quickly and is just as cable of creating their own category of device e.g. Galaxy Note, their R&D dep. is on overdrive now im sure.
The 1.5B USD is just a bonus. proven guilty in court is something else.
1 Billion dollar pay to Apple is not a Bonus, they are guilty!!!
Finely some company take that Korean copycat down, if others do the same instead make a deal Samsung will get down where they belong.
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