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if P800 become a phonewith EDGE?! |
c96sthl
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I didn't get any rumour but just assume if SE upgrd P800 to support EDGE, then would it be worthy? Is the GPRS speed
enough for MP4 streaming? (this is just like what Motorola did with T720-->T725 the first phone with EDGE support)
I feel they will do this, as last year we saw T68m become T68i instead of firmware upgrd to support MMS. |
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BeeWee
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But the upgrade from m -> i was not cheap for se...
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Fulika
Joined: Feb 15, 2002
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Where do you find network with edge support? This will be very expensive for service providers.
This message was posted from a T68i |
Froddan
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Don't know if it's possible, but it would be nice.
Oh, and the t68m/i mms, it was meant to be mms capable already when released, still it took them half a year to keep their promise. |
c96sthl
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i know it is not cheap since it is an alternate solution for network operator to upgrd to 3G. But the marketing articles we read about EDGE is it could be cheaper to implement compare to full 3G network.
So it could be possible P800 will get a facelift + firmware-lift to support EDGE.
Down side of course is the speed is 110++Kbps if i am not mistaken. (3G could be a few mega bps) |
svenbocklandt
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I never heard of any EU operators moving to EDGE. Here in the US, however, all three GSM operators are implementing it this year. It would be awesome if a software upgrade could fix that - does anyone have any insider information on if the P800 hardware is designed to be able to do that?
A T-Mobile data support guy mentioned that "most phones" would be able to support EDGE after a SW upgrade. |
jplacson
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GPRS is just fine for MP4 streaming... the P800 comes with a few streaming camera links that showcase this capability... and it's REALLY smooth!!! 
For me, the P800 is the best GSM can get. I wouldn't want a 3G phone that's as big as the P800. By the time 3G (EDGE, WCDMA, UMTS, or whatever) comes out, I want a phone that has at LEAST a 320x240 16-bit touchscreen, mp4 rotating video cam, at the MOST 20mm thick, thinner margins around the screen.
The P800 is a great phone. I love it. But by 3G standards, it's way to fat, and the screen just isn't up to par with 3G capabilities. |
loonee
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Or it is just another twin brother of nokia 7650...another brick? |
orange
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On 2003-02-09 19:04, jplacson wrote:
By the time 3G (EDGE, WCDMA, UMTS, or whatever) comes out, I want a phone that has at LEAST a 320x240 16-bit touchscreen, mp4 rotating video cam, at the MOST 20mm thick, thinner margins around the screen.
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Hopefully all of the vendors will follow the 3GPP standard in video and go for the 3gp video format instead of mp4. This will ensure the interoperability between the different vendors. |
jplacson
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The 3GGP video standard IS mp4. Difference is the audio codec is AAC not MP4 audio |
orange
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On 2003-02-10 10:27, jplacson wrote:
The 3GGP video standard IS mp4. Difference is the audio codec is AAC not MP4 audio
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So I see, you haven't really read the specs... You can download them from ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/specs/2002-12/Rel-5/26_series/26234-530.zip.
This is how it says:
ITU-T Recommendation H.263 profile 0 level 10 shall be supported. This is the mandatory video decoder for the PSS. In addition, PSS should support:
- H.263 Profile 3 Level 10 decoder
- MPEG-4 Visual Simple Profile Level 0 decoder
These two video decoders are optional to implement.
[ This Message was edited by: orange on 2003-02-10 10:22 ] |
c96sthl
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I read in those electronics engineering magazine and it seem H.263 is putting some threat to Mp4 std ...I remmeber TI and someone is making some new imporvement on chip to support H.263
maybe there might be another new conflict in 3G std....now
I think the network std is already split to 3 camp...it is just so sad tht no one can get one std for mobile telecommunication in this planet. |
jplacson
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On 2003-02-10 11:21, orange wrote:
So I see, you haven't really read the specs... You can download them from ftp://ftp.3gpp.org/specs/2002-12/Rel-5/26_series/26234-530.zip.
This is how it says:
ITU-T Recommendation H.263 profile 0 level 10 shall be supported. This is the mandatory video decoder for the PSS. In addition, PSS should support:
- H.263 Profile 3 Level 10 decoder
- MPEG-4 Visual Simple Profile Level 0 decoder
These two video decoders are optional to implement.
[ This Message was edited by: orange on 2003-02-10 10:22 ]
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Pardon me, but the last time I checked... the word SHOULD means it HAS TO include the said formats. |
orange
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On 2003-02-10 12:41, c96sthl wrote:
maybe there might be another new conflict in 3G std....now
I think the network std is already split to 3 camp...it is just so sad tht no one can get one std for mobile telecommunication in this planet.
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That wouldn't have to happen if every vendor would support 3GPP standards. Unfortunately some of the vendors are just so bull-headed that they want to do things their in own way. In the end, the end user is the one who suffers (interoperability). |
c96sthl
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I once read some article in which the writer hope 4G will finally unify all std (W-CDMA, CMDA 2000 , ??-CDMA [ developed by China])
then it will enable roaming thru out the planet. |
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Posted: 2003-02-09 14:22
