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goldenface
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Posted: 2011-01-08 10:05
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I don't think it was a 'slip' that arc was doing the rounds showing Android 2.4. Honeycomb anyone?
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Posted: 2011-01-08 11:14
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On 2011-01-08 10:05:01, goldenface wrote:
I don't think it was a 'slip' that arc was doing the rounds showing Android 2.4. Honeycomb anyone?



A very good teaser lol a little proof the CAN update the arc fast
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Posted: 2011-01-08 11:42
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I have no idea how Arc will be priced, but I just checked todays prices in Sweden, all are without contract (the US style with contract prices are basically all the same, really weird system). This includes Swedish VAT, so it'a an apples to apples comparison:

Source: prisjakt.nu

Phone SEK USD % of highest
Galaxy S 16GB 5490 792 100%
LG 2x 4895 706 89%
HTC Desire HD 4381 632 80%
Galaxy S 8GB 3995 576 73%
Desire 3638 525 66%
SE-X10 3358 484 61%

So today X10 is clearly positioned quite aggressively, 39% less than the leader. If Arc would be priced around the same as e.g. Desire HD or less I think it would be very competitive.

If SE will follow through with what they've said, i.e. coming out with 2.3 (maybe even 2.4) right around the end of 1Q, then follow up with Honeycomb when that comes out I think SE's image for those who care about having the latest and greatest Android will raise dramatically, from the worst laggard to the leader of the pack!
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Posted: 2011-01-08 11:45
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x10 mini pro successor = Mango
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Posted: 2011-01-08 11:59
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On 2011-01-08 11:45:17, back2you wrote:
x10 mini pro successor = Mango


Also rumoured to be Xperia Duo. Does that make Hallon the new Xperia Neo?
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Posted: 2011-01-08 12:05
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do you remember this? http://j-phone.ru/news/zima_novinki_docomo/2010-09-09-34


"SO-01C: Xperia・Android
SO-02C: Xperia・Windows Phone 7
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where are this two phones? especially WP7 one....

i don`t think that SO-01C is Xperia Arc... if it is, why the other ones aren`t mentioned? (Hallon, x10 mini/mini pro successos) they aren't for Japanese market?
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Posted: 2011-01-08 12:12
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On 2011-01-08 10:05:01, goldenface wrote:
I don't think it was a 'slip' that arc was doing the rounds showing Android 2.4. Honeycomb anyone?



Engadget was saying that 2.4 is more likely to be a slight (not enough for a new dessert name) upgrade to 2.3, in the same way that 2.1 was to 2.0 (both Eclair). So if they're right, 2.4 will still be Gingerbread and will be only a slight upgrade to 2.3.
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Mizzou
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Posted: 2011-01-08 12:35
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New Mini vs. Vivaz Pro - QWERTY keyboards



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Posted: 2011-01-08 12:40
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I'd like to applaud pmugghc for arguing against all the whiners here. The Arc has so much going for it (imo) that it's really unfair to want even more and even be disappointed with it without knowing the price. And why? Just because it isn't dual core? What do you even want that for if people are reporting the Arc to be the smoothest Android experience that they've seen so far? That in addition to the promised fast and frequent updates: What more do you want?

I'd also like to add something in regard to the Xperia Play (PS Phone): Sure it's hardware is 'just' normal high end phone hardware, but don't forget that all Android phones up til now run games that are made for 'any' Android phone. There aren't any games that are truly made for one specific Android phone. The advantage of the Xperia Play is that it will be a platform of its own.

The games that will appear on the PlayStation Pocket market of the Xperia Play can be fully optimized to run on that specific hardware, taking advantage of all its features and all the possibilities of the hardware. They won't be held back by older Android versions, lower resolutions, lower available memory, etc. Very specialized engines and development tools can be developed.

I'd bet that especially the exclusive games created by Sony Computer Entertainment's studios (wasn't a God of War game rumored?) will look amazing, better than most if not all other phone games.

Also, those that think April is late for this device: I don't think any big games platform was ever released faster after its first official announcement (which will be in February it seems). You need some time to create hype and a marketing campaign for an ambitious product. We don't know any game titles yet for instance.

Lastly, I think going for lower end hardware will allow for lower (mass market) price and hopefully longer battery life, which is essential if playing games will be the primary use of the device. Using the CPU and GPU to their fullest should not last just 2-3 hours.

Still, we need much more details about the Xperia Play to judge it fully, but whining about it so much already is pointless imo.
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Posted: 2011-01-08 12:58
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New Mini vs. Mini Pro - QWERTY keyboards

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Posted: 2011-01-08 13:59
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anyone got pics of the vivaz pro successor??

what do you guys think are going to be the differences between the x10 mini successor and the vivaz successor

is it going to be mainly just the size and resolution of the screens? since mini successor also records HD

anyone know if these devices also have Exmor and Bravia technologies?
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Posted: 2011-01-08 14:06
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So good to read some sensible posts, and zub is a real "tech freak" unlike some other that change their mind every two days...
I must add that HTC is going to shake high as this UI from SE is not far from the HTC one in term of quality and far better than the korean's one, note coments about motoblur (wrost than any other), So the objective of 15% of the android 2011 market share should be a piece of cake regarding to the portofolio of the first half.

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Posted: 2011-01-08 14:34
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anyone other than me that reflected over the placement of the 3,5mm jack on the top side? Not that optimal if you keep the phone in your pocket with a headset connected
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Posted: 2011-01-08 14:45
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I had to chime in on the XPERIA Arc. Despite its lack of "high-end" specs the design looks fantastic. I don't know they chose the placement of the 3.5mm Jack though. Also, shipping with Gingerbread is a huge advantage and decoupling Timescape and Mediascape from the software is another improvement D it will allow them to deliver software updates more quickly. I think the Arc will be very popular. Hopefully Sony Ericsson can ship quickly and quickly deliver platform updates as they are made available by Google.

The XPERIA Play to me is still a head scratcher though. I thought they would've pushed the tech limit a bit more on that handset (assuming the rumours are true). But I will wait until its strategy is announced at MWC before making final judgement.
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Posted: 2011-01-08 15:05
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On 2011-01-08 12:05:04, Reactor. wrote:
do you remember this? http://j-phone.ru/news/zima_novinki_docomo/2010-09-09-34


"SO-01C: Xperia・Android
SO-02C: Xperia・Windows Phone 7
"

where are this two phones? especially WP7 one....

i don`t think that SO-01C is Xperia Arc... if it is, why the other ones aren`t mentioned? (Hallon, x10 mini/mini pro successos) they aren't for Japanese market?



only the Xperia Arc will be also available in Japan... like the X10, which was the first SE phone to be available globally including Japan...
and if im not wrong SEMC and SEMC Japan are two different things
from the PR
Sony Ericsson Xperia™ arc will be available globally in selected markets, including Japan, from Q1 in the colours Midnight Blue and Misty Silver.

[ This Message was edited by: juris15 on 2011-01-08 14:07 ]
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