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se_dude
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Posted: 2010-12-04 13:28
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But of course, if SE manages to keep it cheaper it will sell better IMO and with striking software. Also the fact that it brings nothing greater to the table than what X10 already has, someone who isnt regular in these forums wont make out much from another 1ghz snapdragon processor. I mean, leaving them side by side, the X10 and Anzu are both "same" from the Average Joe's point of view albiet with a better screen.
Lollylost100
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Posted: 2010-12-04 17:23
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Well, you did miss out a few important features, probably just to prove your point.

-HDMI port
-Exmor R sensor
-Full multitouch
-Qriocity
-thinner
-multicoloured back covers
-Timescape plugins
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Posted: 2010-12-04 17:40
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And those won't make it any cheaper.
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Posted: 2010-12-04 17:53
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On 2010-12-04 11:20:06, se_dude wrote:
Well yes, but as Bert Nordberg himself mentioned, a phone with dual core proccy and 1080p recording and 720p screen sounds better and is better marketing that a better optimized phone. As with most people who keep running after decimal points, 2.1,2.2,2.3 without having much idea as t what it does to the system, the average Joe goes after features. Optimization is hardly a bragging point than a dual core proccy or better recording.


The average joe doesn't know jack shit about what version is running under the hood and of all the decimal places and hardware intricacies and all that. Only geeks go arguing about them for several pages.

Pick some random guy on the street, ask him what a Tegra 2 is and he will stand there with the mouth agape. Count on it.

Rog is absolutely right, judge a device by the UX, not some spec list. This idiocy has gone on for too long.
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Posted: 2010-12-04 17:56
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There is actually 1 feature that hasn't been mentioned so far I think, which is quite interesting. But let's keep that there for now until we hear officially about it next year

@synn: agree, but that's where the marketing comes in: if the Average Joe has to decide between a phone with a 1GHz processor and a phone with 1.5GHz Dual Processor, with which one do you think he will go? Exactly, the 1.5GHz one. The only thing that can change his opinion is a significant price difference between those two. And that's the only chance that SE has, imho.
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io_bg
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Posted: 2010-12-04 18:11
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On 2010-12-04 17:56:00, rog wrote:
There is actually 1 feature that hasn't been mentioned so far I think, which is quite interesting. But let's keep that there for now until we hear officially about it next year

C'mon, tell us what it is
pauvincent
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Posted: 2010-12-04 18:11
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On 2010-12-04 17:53:43, synn wrote:

On 2010-12-04 11:20:06, se_dude wrote:
Well yes, but as Bert Nordberg himself mentioned, a phone with dual core proccy and 1080p recording and 720p screen sounds better and is better marketing that a better optimized phone. As with most people who keep running after decimal points, 2.1,2.2,2.3 without having much idea as t what it does to the system, the average Joe goes after features. Optimization is hardly a bragging point than a dual core proccy or better recording.


The average joe doesn't know jack shit about what version is running under the hood and of all the decimal places and hardware intricacies and all that. Only geeks go arguing about them for several pages.

Pick some random guy on the street, ask him what a Tegra 2 is and he will stand there with the mouth agape. Count on it.

Rog is absolutely right, judge a device by the UX, not some spec list. This idiocy has gone on for too long.


most of the time average joe gets influenced by geeks in buying a phone geek's influence plus marketing equals to average joe buyng a high end spec wise phone
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se_dude
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Posted: 2010-12-04 18:18
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@synn- well. I think a dual core 1.5 ghz sounds better than 1 ghz. And so does full hd recording.
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Posted: 2010-12-04 18:49
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On 2010-12-04 18:18:57, se_dude wrote:
@synn- well. I think a dual core 1.5 ghz sounds better than 1 ghz. And so does full hd recording.


(My opinion) There is no use case for a dual core 1.5GHz processor in a phone right now (or in the next 6-12 months). The first round of dual core processors will probably top out at 1GHz (+- 200MHz). You are not going to run two cores at 1.5GHz at anytime in a phone without killing battery life. The main (to me) purpose of moving to a dual core platform is processing/power efficiency not "balls to the wall performance" thats wasted on most users.

I think you will see higher spec'd processors (1.5GHz+ dual core) in tablets where they have the space for a bigger battery and higher thermal tolerances.
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pauvincent
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Posted: 2010-12-04 19:21
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On 2010-12-04 18:49:41, emuneee wrote:

On 2010-12-04 18:18:57, se_dude wrote:
@synn- well. I think a dual core 1.5 ghz sounds better than 1 ghz. And so does full hd recording.


(My opinion) There is no use case for a dual core 1.5GHz processor in a phone right now (or in the next 6-12 months). The first round of dual core processors will probably top out at 1GHz (+- 200MHz). You are not going to run two cores at 1.5GHz at anytime in a phone without killing battery life. The main (to me) purpose of moving to a dual core platform is processing/power efficiency not "balls to the wall performance" thats wasted on most users.

I think you will see higher spec'd processors (1.5GHz+ dual core) in tablets where they have the space for a bigger battery and higher thermal tolerances.
[ This Message was edited by: emuneee on 2010-12-04 17:50 ]



unless they make a super batteries for phones
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mriley
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Posted: 2010-12-04 19:44
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On 2010-12-04 19:21:53, pauvincent wrote:
unless they make a super batteries for phones



How likely is that?
Battery technology is the main thing hindering the progress of smartphones, there's no point in having superfast processors and huge screens if battery life is greatly affected.
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Lollylost100
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Posted: 2010-12-04 19:49
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@rog - USB On-The-Go?

Anzu will have a 1500MAh battery.
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io_bg
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Posted: 2010-12-04 19:55
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Speaking of batteries, how big will the PSP phone's one? The phone is quite bulky which makes me think it'll have a good battery (1800 mAh or maybe even more).
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rog
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Posted: 2010-12-04 21:18
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@Lollylost100: no, it is related to the display. Enough said now!
kewsvnet
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Posted: 2010-12-04 21:37
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On 2010-12-04 21:18:42, rog wrote:
@Lollylost100: no, it is related to the display. Enough said now!



is that the XLED with Bravia branding??? which I understand is about similar to samsung's super amoled

btw....anyone got any more news on the other possible models from

mini/pro???
vivaz/pro???

i m really looking for something with a keyboard....not a very big fan of touchscreen keyboards!!!
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