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Don't bet on GSM in the U.S.A. |
d_a_r_k_n_e_z_z
Joined: Jun 15, 2002
Posts: 186
From: My Crypt in L.A.
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hey guys who plan to get an expensive p800 you will only be able to use it for 3 years which is such a waste of $ for the US is waiting for 3G in 3 years instead of sticking to gsm permanently. i changed my mind now about getting the p800 so stick to your cheap t68's for now. this is old news but also just a reminder
http://www.techtv.com/freshgear/specialevents/story/0,23008,3011796,00.html
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pachy
Joined: Nov 05, 2002
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The average use of a cellphone in most european countries is around 11 months, so do you US users keep them for 3yrs, i can`t imagine the p800 being a current phone in 3yrs (or even 2yrs). |
d_a_r_k_n_e_z_z
Joined: Jun 15, 2002
Posts: 186
From: My Crypt in L.A.
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@pachy don't forget that the p800 is also a pda and not just a phone. will pda's be not current by then? |
highrez
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
Posts: 3
From: Seattle, WA
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Yeah, techtv sucks. Really sucks. The carriers are not going to throw GSM out. EDGE, and infact WCDMA can work with GSM networks. According to the GSM working group (www.gsmworld.com) EDGE really stands for (E)nchanced (D)ata-rate for (G)SM (E)volution. Techtv got it wrong, taking the (G)lobal from GSM and using that instead of GSM. Certainly your P800 won't be edge or wcdma compatible, and its already known that 1xRTT is much faster than GPRS. Your title is misleading, making it sounds like GSM itself will be dated, when infact its GPRS that will (already is) dated. I'd bet on GSM - Cingular, ATTWS, and T-Mobile all are. Your P800 will last longer than three for making phone calls, and probbably low data rate transmissions over GSM. The question is wether or not GPRS will be around, or if the spectrum currently allocated for it will be recycled for EDGE/W-CDMA. You've got your facts wrong. |
pachy
Joined: Nov 05, 2002
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@D_a_r_k_n_e_z_z, well it`s difficult to forget it`s a PDA as i`ve been using it for a month, but i know i will only have it for maybe 1 to 1.5 years MAX.
But the link story you showed was dated 2001, so my selling my p800 after 1yr of use will fit in nicely with 3g here in europe.
But i understand europe & Asia are a little faster on phone turnaround. |
amagab
Joined: Oct 29, 2002
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GSM will be around for a long time!
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wapt
Joined: Jan 10, 2003
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Sounds that a cellphone has longer life in the America than it does in the Europe and Asia.
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WoeDee
Joined: Nov 23, 2002
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GSM will be around for a while. Why would anyone want to keep a cell for 3yrs? I usually get a cell whenever I see one I like...which is usually every 10 months or so.
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highrez
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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From: Seattle, WA
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On another note, I don't really want a P800 for a few reasons (mainly the OS), but I saw a CF GSM/GPRS card on expansys today. It says it can be used for voice and data, but is pocketpc specific. To me thats as bad as going with any other closed OS. I hope there is Linux support for it soon, cause my next PDA is a Sharp Zaurus.  Making calls from a zaurus would just make me drool........... |
pachy
Joined: Nov 05, 2002
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It`s so good that there`s such a choice nowdays in cellphones, for example the amazing SE P800 for people in the know, & all other phones for.......well people who are`nt in the know.
NO OFFENCE ! |
n|ck_xp
Joined: Feb 16, 2002
Posts: 363
From: Greece/Rhodes
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HeHe!First of all the realease of the 3G does not mean the sutdown of the GSM network!Second I find that 3 years old article very stupit!And third T-Mobile and AT&T already said that they are going to offer UMTS network accross the USA...
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senninha
Joined: Jan 05, 2003
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i think the techtv article ignored a very significant fact.
of the 1.3 billion mobile phone subscribers worldwide, 787 million are on GSM. roughly 10pct are 3G users., 'other' mobile data users (WAP/GPRS/etc.) are probably not that big a percentage either. the majority still use their phones for voice calls and perhaps some SMS.
don't get me wrong, i can't wait for 3G services to arrive. but the reality is that GSM will be around for awhile yet, as it has by far the largest population, most of whom are not really looking for data services yet. so until the telcos can convince these people to start using more data services, then i imagine GSM will still be the preferred technology. |
contaygious
Joined: Jan 04, 2003
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Whatever. I have a P800. Have had one for almost two months here in the U.S. and if u are trying to tell me that my p800 will be outdated soon even tho it hasn't even come out here yet, u are crazy!!!
3G in us is not a big deal at least not for a long long time cuz no one here even is really concerned with email/internet on their phones anyway. P800 might do well here for the people who DO want that. But most are not going to pay for internet on their phone as well as their PC. So I am not worried. I will have my P800 for at least 2 or three years. I'm 20 now and this is my forth phone so far.
Peace.
I HAVE A P800!!!!!!!!! |
Zoidy
Joined: Jan 30, 2003
Posts: 114
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Hi all,
dont forget people, 3G is going to be well expensive when it arrives. I dont know anyone who would pay the monthly tariffs that the phone providers are asking. It's going to be aimed primarily at the rich and at businesses.
It's ridiculous.
Z.
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haki
Joined: May 14, 2002
Posts: 390
From: The real MACEDONIA in GREECE
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Exactly! The cost of 3G services will initially be prohibiting to most users. Besides, acceptance of GPRS has been disappointingly low.
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