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mr_lou
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Posted: 2010-08-15 22:04
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Ok, I've searched before posting this thread, but all the existing threads about this subject seems to be 2 years old or more.

Yesterday I was making a lot of video recordings with my SE Aino, and Nokia N82. I used my SE Aino first, because I prefer SE, but when it began to have trouble I switched to the Nokia N82.
Looking at the videos today it's CLEAR to see when I switched to the Nokia, as the quality is so much better.

Since video-recording is very important to me, I want a new phone now. (Sadly I also have a ton of other requirements, but I want to disregard those for now).

See, a lot of newer phones are listed as HD-recording capabilities. That doesn't mean that much to me, since SE Aino and Nokia N82 are both listed as VGA-recording capabilities, but the N82 is clearly better than the Aino, especially in dark surroundings.

So, I'm interested in hearing some experiences from you out there. You'll need to have personal experience with multiple models. It's not enough to say: "I love MY phone HD-recording".

I hear bad things about Vivaz. Is it true? Is it bad?
What about X10 Mini Pro. Has anyone gotten the upgrade yet, and can tell me something about its new HD video recording quality?
I've heard that the Samsung Galaxy S is the absolute best phone for video recording at the moment. Do you agree?

Thanks for your time.
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Posted: 2010-08-16 00:03
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SE has not released an upgrade for their Android devices. So they're still in the 1.6 Android version. The Samsung Galaxy S has no led.

When you said Vivaz, you included the Pro?
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Posted: 2010-08-16 00:12
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If you don't need SE, I'd say go for the Wave. Very good video capabilities imo (though it has some sync and mail troubles). Else the Galaxy S might be nice, but I don't know it. I was pretty impressed by the Mini's video capabilities too, but they're for sure not as good as those from the Wave. Wave beats Vivaz (pro) hands down btw. See comparision here: http://www.allaboutphones.nl/[....]7/Sony-Ericsson-Vivaz-Pro.html the upper is the wave.
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mr_lou
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Posted: 2010-08-16 16:40
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I've just visited 3 shops in town to check out stand-alone HD video-recorders. A Sony Bloggie, a Samsung something and a JVC something. I got some recording-samples with me home from the Sony and Samsung, and must admit they really don't look better than the Vivaz examples I've seen online.

When I record with my SE Aino in darker surroundings, the quality is really poor. Can someone tell me if that's the same with the Vivaz?
Hasn't new firmware for the Vivaz come out not long ago? Did it improve video-recording?
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Posted: 2010-08-19 20:57
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Well, I have tried 3 pocket HD-recorders now. Full-HD recorders actually. And while the picture quality was indeed nice, the sound-quality was crap.
So my current two choices are:
1) Try the Vivaz Pro, or
2) Buy a Canon Ixus 300 HS

Can't make up my mind at all.
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Posted: 2010-08-20 01:44
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Why not wait for the Nokia N8: http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n8-3252.php it has HD720@25FPS with dual mics, as well as HDMI with Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound, i have no experience with one but it seems this is the phone that will suit your needs perfectly overall as it will record in HD with stereo sound and will allow you to plug it in via HDMI to a HD ready tv/monitor and view your vids in HD, it also has USB-OTG so you can plug it directly to an external HDD and transfer/play media from it, hope that helps.
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Posted: 2010-08-20 14:19
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wow, this N8 looks to finally be the perfect mobile camera phone.
mr_lou
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Posted: 2010-08-20 15:22
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Nokia N8 does indeed look like a great camera phone.

However, I really need hardware keys for texting.
In other words, there are currently really only these devices that might satisfy me.

A good soundplayer is also preferred, and in my experience the Nokia devices doesn't play back music that well. At least my N82 doesn't.
This is why I look mostly towards Vivaz Pro or X10 Pro (if/when it gets updated to Android 2.1 so it can record HD).
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Posted: 2010-08-20 15:26
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Posted: 2010-08-20 15:52
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The big X10 is the only one getting the HD720p video, the X10mini Pro's hardware doesnt support higher than VGA as far as i know.
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Posted: 2010-08-20 16:11
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but Nokia N8 is the only one getting a XENON flash as well right?
dam.. i am drooling already.. might have to say goodbye to my beloved C905


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mr_lou
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Posted: 2010-08-20 16:59
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I've been looking at a video-sample from Vivaz. I think the audio is very low. Is this a known issue? Something that is fixed in a newer firmware?
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Posted: 2010-08-31 02:12
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When it comes to great video recording quality I would definitely go for a SE Vivaz, so crisp and crystal clear
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Posted: 2010-09-01 11:48
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I have been using SE Vivaz for a week or two.
I would say video recording is the "only" good point.
mr_lou
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Posted: 2011-09-18 11:55
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And the quest for the best video-recording phone continues, now running for quite a few years.

In my hunt for the phone I want, I bought

Vivaz Pro
Xperia Arc, Neo and Ray
Nokia N8

and I'm tired!

Vivaz Pro just have crap audio in video recordings, which renders the video-recordings completely useless. Solution: None, throw it out. (Or if you insist on keeping it, then boost audio in all video-clips by at least a factor 4 in a video-editor).

Xperia Arc/Neo/Ray does the same, although not quite as bad, but bad enough to be annoying. Audio in all video-recordings has to be boosted 250% before it's usable. (First firmwares of Arc was ok though, but in later firmwares the microphone input level was lowered for some reason). Workaround: Flash your phone with software 3.0.1.A.0.145. You'll only have mono audio, but it'll be loud enough.
If you insist of having stereo-audio, then you must manually boost all audio 250% in a video-editor.

Nokia N8 is fairly good, but I was actually surprised to see that Arc/Neo/Ray actually does a better job regarding the picture. Arc/Neo/Ray gives more accurate colors. (I remember this also from earlier SE Aino - Nokia N82 comparison).
Audio in N8 is kinda like in N82. It's loud enough, but kinda has too much bass / inside-a-bottle-sound.

So in my current conclusion:
Arc/Neo/Ray is the best if you manually boost audio 250%
If you (understandable) are too lazy to do that, then Nokia N8 is the best.

(If you can settle for VGA resolution, Aino / Elm and the likes, is the best).

If you then have to consider the OS at the same time, then there can only be one winner: Arc/Neo/Ray.
How anyone can stand using Symbian shit is beyond me. So slow and un-intuitive.
"Next version is faster" is something I've been listening to forever, and it's always a lie. Symbian is slow and annoying and it will never change. It's dying, so leave the f**k alone to die in peace.

Me? I think I'll be flashing my Ray to a previous firmware, and then forget about stereo audio. I've given up on Sony Ericsson to fix this. Any company taking so many years to get it right, will never get it right. That has become quite clear now.
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