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X11: what it SHOULD be |
pavlov's_dog
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Given the very tough competition, I think us fans of SE should chip in and help SE "decide" what the X11 successor should be, so to speak.
This is not a wishlist. I think we need to set a minimum criteria that would ensure the X11 critical and commercial success.
This may just be a forecast of next year's trends.
- 4" HD (720 x 1280) next-generation AMOLED display with MULTI touch support (I know HD is a little too much for it's size but hey, why not?)
- 2GHz processor (at least)
- Scratch proof mineral display and all-metal body
- a better 12MP camera with xenon flash and photolight
- 1080p full HD video capture
- Stereo speakers
- Android 3.x (the latest one upon release)
- THEMES (the blue one is making me dizzy. it's funny to ask for something so basic 5 years ago)
and of course the X11 mini!
- 3" VGA next-gen AMOLED with MT
- everything else mentioned above but with a weaker cam (say 8MP and photolight)
- dimensions: 90mm x 54mm x 12mm
as for the design philosophy, I think SE is doing very well with human curvature. Industrial will be a very big hit (see Iphone4) but it has been done before (i.e., T610, K700)
What do you think? I know most of these features only good on paper. But still they are very important in terms of marketing. Feel free to add/change anything.
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On 2010-06-23 17:44:32, pavlov's_dog wrote:
Given the very tough competition, I think us fans of SE should chip in and help SE "decide" what the X11 successor should be, so to speak.
This is not a wishlist. I think we need to set a minimum criteria that would ensure the X11 critical and commercial success.
This may just be a forecast of next year's trends.
- 4" HD (720 x 1280) next-generation AMOLED display with MULTI touch support (I know HD is a little too much for it's size but hey, why not?)
- 2GHz processor (at least)
- Scratch proof mineral display and all-metal body
- a better 12MP camera with xenon flash and photolight
- 1080p full HD video capture
- Stereo speakers
- Android 3.x (the latest one upon release)
- THEMES (the blue one is making me dizzy. it's funny to ask for something so basic 5 years ago)
+11 
but can we make the speaker 2.1? i mean, stereo speakers with subwoofer... LG has it...
and of course the X11 mini!
- 3" VGA next-gen AMOLED with MT
- everything else mentioned above but with a weaker cam (say 8MP and photolight)
- dimensions: 90mm x 54mm x 12mm
can we make it lower like the X10? like:
- 2.4" AMOLED (maybe w/o MT)
- 2MP, dual/trio photolight, AF
- VGA recording @ 30FPS
- longer battery life
- no 3G support 
- Walkman 4.0 player with Clear Audio EQ
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Android does not allow for Themes im fairly sure... At least in current versions it doesnt.
Though with all these customs roms and things, its a wonder people havent figured out who to do so!
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Muhammad-Oli
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On 2010-06-23 17:44:32, pavlov's_dog wrote:
- 4" HD (720 x 1280) next-generation AMOLED display with MULTI touch support (I know HD is a little too much for it's size but hey, why not?)
- 2GHz processor (at least)
- Scratch proof mineral display and all-metal body
- a better 12MP camera with xenon flash and photolight
- 1080p full HD video capture
- Stereo speakers
- Android 3.x (the latest one upon release)
- THEMES (the blue one is making me dizzy. it's funny to ask for something so basic 5 years ago)
"- 2GHz processor (at least)" Personally I think 1.5 is easily enough, and is likely all we're really going to see in 2010/11. 2GHz is a bit over the top for a phone at this stage because we all have seen that current mobile phone OSs run perfectly on a 1GHz processor.
"- Scratch proof mineral display and all-metal body" I would prefer a half metal, half plastic frame. All metal makes a phone too heavy or can disrupt the signal as we are now seeing with iPhone 4.
"- a better 12MP camera with xenon flash and photolight" I think 8MP is enough. Xenon is a want.
"- 1080p full HD video capture" Agree. If SE want to stay ahead of the game, this is the next step.
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Instead of higher CPU speed I'd rather like to see a (better) GPU. |
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I would love to see something about dual-cpu 1.5Ghz as minimum
About the screen I want Bravia technology put in their global phone not only Japanese market
Not preferred AMOLED at all cost, it can't work well under sun light
and I feel it over contrast color not friendly with my eyes but clear crisp and deep black color I have to admit it.
S.AMOLED is exclusive for SS so it will not likely for other manufactured DON'T ASK FOR IT!
make the feeling of holding C901 while using material like w995 it would be perfect
with 3.5" screen is enough don't big to much to hold and one hand can handle it
After N8 release 12mp would be real standard setter instead of continue megapixels war
 better improve sensor size as N8 did and with EXMOR it will work perfectly and XENON is must have for full functional camera
design-wise is excellent I know altogether with XPERIA TimeScape MediaScape
I'm sold with my dream
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what about a 4 inch HD 3D screen would be pretty cool aswell as sony ericsson branded 3D glasses along with a 1-2ghz processor and to top it all of latest version of android.
im pretty sure if they can pull that off and sell it for about £650-700 then they'll probably be up to date for a lobg time. |
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3D is bad for a phone, imagine every time u want to use your phone u need 2 bring some 3d glasses with u and wear them as well. Stick with AMOLED, LED, Retina Display Etc. but 3D is too much for a phone, and wayyy tooo expensive.
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On 2010-06-26 23:12:35, basithz wrote:
what about a 4 inch HD 3D screen would be pretty cool aswell as sony ericsson branded 3D glasses along with a 1-2ghz processor and to top it all of latest version of android.
im pretty sure if they can pull that off and sell it for about £650-700 then they'll probably be up to date for a lobg time.
3D with glasses on a phone would be absolutely laughable. I'd like to see the technology from the 3DS make it onto a phone, where there would be no need for glasses.
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basithz
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On 2010-06-26 23:35:13, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
On 2010-06-26 23:12:35, basithz wrote:
what about a 4 inch HD 3D screen would be pretty cool aswell as sony ericsson branded 3D glasses along with a 1-2ghz processor and to top it all of latest version of android.
im pretty sure if they can pull that off and sell it for about £650-700 then they'll probably be up to date for a lobg time.
3D with glasses on a phone would be absolutely laughable. I'd like to see the technology from the 3DS make it onto a phone, where there would be no need for glasses.
what i meant by 3D is that you can watch 3D movies and it'll still have a normal hd screen |
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I think X11 should be like this
Camera
12.1 megapixel liquid lens plus Exmor sensor size 1/1.9" or 1/2.33"
- Touch Focus, Auto-Focus, Infinite, Macro, OFF
- Blink Detection, Smile Detection, Face Detection, Photo Fix, Sweep Panorama, Best Pic, Frames, Geo-tagging
- ISO up to 3200, EV, , Image Stabiliser, Metering Mode, Night Mode, Self-timer, Raw mode
- 16x Digital zoom, 3x optical zoom
- Scenes: Auto, Twilight portrait and landscape, Landscape and portrait, Beach/snow, Sports and Document
- White Balance - Auto, Daylight, Cloudy, Fluorescent, Incandescent
- Effects: Black and White, Negative, Sepia, Solarise, Night Vision, Cartoonized
- Sulphur Plasma Flash: Auto, Red-Eye Reduction, OFF
Secondary cam
- video call at 1.3 megapixel resolution
Full HD 1080p
- Save in H.264 format or DIVX
- Resolution: 1080p, 720p, WVGA, VGA, CIF
- Frame rate: 30 fps, 24 fps
- Mode: Slow-motion, Time-lapse, Normal (1080p to VGA)
- Focus: Continuous Auto-foucus, Auto-focus, OFF
- ISO up to 3200, Image stabiliser, Metering Mode, EV, Night Mode, Self-timer
- Mic: Front, Back, audio zoom, 5.1 surround sound
- 16x digital zoom, 3x Optical zoom
- White Balance - Auto, Daylight, Cloudy, Fluorescent, Incandescent
- Effects: Black and White, Negative, Sepia, Solarise, Night Vision, Cartoonized
- Sulphur Plasma Flash
Screen
4.0" Capacitive Super TFT LCD by Sony with 16 million colors
- 720p or 640 x 960 resolution
- proximity sensor
- incorporates Sony and SE's Touch Panel Technology
- Gorilla glass display
- multi-touch support
- 300 DPI
Body
- Dimension 115 x 63 x 12 mm
- 130 g
- Made with environment-friendly materials
- Waterproof, scratch proof, shock proof and finger-print resistant
Design
Combination of X10, Satio and Vivaz's designs
Connectivity
- GSM/EDGE 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
- HSDPA/HSPA 800 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
- 4g/Wimax or HSPA 14/21 mbps support
- Wi-fi b/g/n, DLNA
- GPS with A-GPS
- Digital Compass
- Built-in Stereo FM Radio with RDS (can be used without plugging the headset) and FM Transmitter
- Bluetooth 4.0 or 5 with A2DP
- microUSB 2.0
- HDMI mini v1.3 or v1.4
- 3.5mm headphone jack
- Three microphones - one with noise cancellation technology
- Double stereo speakers
- Low SAR value
Memory
- I GB RAM, 2 GB ROM
- 16/32/64 gb MoviNAND internal memory
- micro SDXC card slot up to 2 TB
CPU and GPU
OMAP 4440
- 1.5 Ghz
- POWERVR SGX545
Battery
- Li-Po 1800 mAh
Software
- Android's latest version
- UPX UI layer
- Much improved Timescape and Mediascape applications
- Accelometer and Gyroscope
- Support for MKV/FLV.DIVX/XVID/RV/WMV/H.264/H.263 video formats
- Support for MP3/WAV/WMA/RA/eAAC+/AC3/FLAC audio formats
- Video playback without conversion
- Smart Dialing and Speed dial
Extra Features
- Track ID music recognition
- SensMe and Shake Control
- Sony's Remote Play
- Mobile TV
- 5.1 surround sound
- Profiles
- Document Viewer
- Voice/Memo/Dial Commands
- Gesture control (silence a call or an alarm by waving one's hand above the front cam)
- Flashlight (using the Sulphur Plasma flash)
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On 2010-06-27 00:02:43, basithz wrote:
On 2010-06-26 23:35:13, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
On 2010-06-26 23:12:35, basithz wrote:
what about a 4 inch HD 3D screen would be pretty cool aswell as sony ericsson branded 3D glasses along with a 1-2ghz processor and to top it all of latest version of android.
im pretty sure if they can pull that off and sell it for about £650-700 then they'll probably be up to date for a lobg time.
3D with glasses on a phone would be absolutely laughable. I'd like to see the technology from the 3DS make it onto a phone, where there would be no need for glasses.
what i meant by 3D is that you can watch 3D movies and it'll still have a normal hd screen
My point still stands.  Nobody will want to be seen watching a movie on a mobile phone with those ridiculous 3D glasses on. If they are going to put 3D on a phone (I personally hope they don't waste their time with gimmicks like this), then I hope they do it like the 3DS. No glasses, yet still 3D.
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i believe sharp has already done it,
except you dont need 3d glasses to watch 3d movies on the new sharp phone they have developed..
so you wont look like a stooge with those 3d glassses - you dont need them
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^Samsung has already announced a phone with 3D screen that does not need 3D glasses. But it is only for Korean market.
Here's the link: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_w960_amoled_3d-3319.php.
Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyIiAdFzQdA&feature=related
Knowing SE, they are probably the last one to make a phone with 3D screen, let alone one with Pico projector.
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I'd rather SE not make a pico projector phone. For the amount of people that would genuinely use it often (ie. Not just a few times until the novelty wears off), it is a waste of precious development time.
Pico projector phones are for companies that make so many phones that they can afford a few niche models, like Samsung.
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