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FS: SE W710 brand new |
bart
Joined: Feb 03, 2002
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From: Flanders
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Got a brand new W710 for anyone who loved this nice phone and its great battery life.
Selling price 110euro excl shipping.
With Ericsson and Nokia gone: we must keep their spirits alive and buy JOLLA or YOTA |
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alexlt
Joined: Jun 05, 2004
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From: A Valley in Peru
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Don't bother, it may never arrive ...
http://www.esato.com/board/vi[....]c=82664&start=3615#post2150599
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bart
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i've had one negative feedback, while the many others (and i really mean many) are all positive.
i've been arround for a very long time, i'm honest and can be trusted. I myself had a bad experience when the post office lost the package, things happen, its very sad, but nothing you can do about it.
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fluke9
Joined: Oct 31, 2006
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Was the money returned ??
Assuming the phone did not arrive.
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bart
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I bought a phone once, didn't arrive, never had any refunds.
The buyer can always chose for normal package or secured.
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alexlt
Joined: Jun 05, 2004
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From: A Valley in Peru
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I don't talk for other people, I talk for myself. I send the money and I never get the phone, so I was the only one who lost here. No money was refunded, I didn't know I had to ask for a secured delivery ... So if a package is sent with normal delivery I don't get the package?? :S
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6230
Joined: Aug 22, 2006
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From: Ireland
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Alex, I know how you feel. Thats terrible.
Shame on you Bart |
blerk
Joined: Jun 12, 2008
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From: London, UK
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I think by law a seller is responsible for the goods until it has arrived, not until the sellers drops it at the post office. This is why it is very important to send things recorded, or with international signed for, which doesn't cost that much extra. If I order anything from anyone or any shop the seller has to make sure it arrives, if it gets lost in the mail the seller has to claim money from the postal services and refund me right away, they should not make you wait until the seller recovered the money.
I recently sold a small item to tranced and did not opt for international signed for as it costs more than the item, and the post lost it. I refunded him right away while I make a claim with Royalmail, who most likely will give me some stamps 
Regardless, any buyer or seller should always send more expensive items (50 pounds or more) by a traceable service, this will cost maybe 5 pounds extra and gives a lot of security.
Sorry bart, don't mean to hijack your thread with my ranting, just like to inform everybody 
[ This Message was edited by: blerk on 2010-01-14 22:58 ] |
domipost
Joined: Mar 18, 2007
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On 2010-01-14 23:20:47, alexlt wrote:
I don't talk for other people, I talk for myself. I send the money and I never get the phone, so I was the only one who lost here. No money was refunded, I didn't know I had to ask for a secured delivery ... So if a package is sent with normal delivery I don't get the package?? :S
I think it's more like if you don't ask for secured delivery and the item is lost during shipping, you don't get it. Shure it sucks, but it sucks just as bad for the seller if he lost his phone and has to give a refund. I'd suggest the seller to do a 50/50, but that's just me.
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6230
Joined: Aug 22, 2006
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@Domi - One would presume registered post would be included. surely? |
alexlt
Joined: Jun 05, 2004
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On 2010-01-15 00:02:13, domipost wrote:
I think it's more like if you don't ask for secured delivery and the item is lost during shipping, you don't get it. Shure it sucks, but it sucks just as bad for the seller if he lost his phone and has to give a refund. I'd suggest the seller to do a 50/50, but that's just me.
I understand your point, sure I know that for a fact now, but in that time I didn't believe things could be lost so easy, specially in Europe, and I dont even live there :S It seems fair to me 50/50, as I can understand the probability the package being lost during shipping but I lost all contact with bart after that incident ...
Thanks for your replies 
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ceaser2008
Joined: Jul 14, 2008
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From: Surat, India
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I am sorry for replying here but do things tend to lost in mail?? As i have not received my playtime prize c903, and the sender has sent it without taking any receipt. I am getting worried now. 
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fluke9
Joined: Oct 31, 2006
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From: Sarf Lundun UK
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Bottom line the seller should at a very minimum get a Certificate Of Posting, it costs nothing more than asking for it at time of posting, even if it is an envelope, but ideally signed for as Blerk mentions it ain't a lot more to have it signed for, that said I always mention in a sales post that once in the hands of the Postal Service it is no longer my responsibility if it goes missing and state that insurance is extra at buyers cost, that way it's all above board before transactions take place.
I have posted all over the world on various forums for years and only once had a problem.
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bart
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@ceaser: just wait for your gift, sending from Europe to India takes a lot of time. Sold a phone once that took just a bit more then a month to arrive.
When someone buy's from me, he/she always has the option to use secured delivery. None have done that so far, only 1 item got lost. I myself never by anything with a secured delivery, even expensive stuff like  prototypes.
What guarantee is their for the seller when the buyer say it did not arrive?
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fluke9
Joined: Oct 31, 2006
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Explain in your sales post that you are not responsible once in the hands of the postal system.
And get a certificate of posting from the post office they are free of charge and you only have to ask for it at time of posting.
Otherwise what proof has the buyer got that you posted it ???
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