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PROPER P800 competition |
nigelot1
Joined: Aug 27, 2002
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Will still get a P800 when it eventually arrives in the UK but this looks interesting for all Symbian fans-
http://www.4cellular.com/search/phone_detail.cfm?id=107
Not sure wether it is touch sceen
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Iceduck
Joined: Mar 18, 2002
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From: Denmark
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I'm very confident that it WILL have a touch-screen.
I think it has a really cool design. Also it looks like it's using UIQ. That would mean that it's 100% compatible with P800 apps (if I'm not terribly wrong). The possibility to add a wireless LAN card to it is pretty neat too. |
chungagoring
Joined: Jul 25, 2002
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it's basically the same thing as the p800. same screen, same symbian 7.0. the differences are external: the camera rotates from front to back, it has a joystick, it's heavier, slimmer and taller.
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gugge
Joined: Jan 11, 2003
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after a quick look...
better: SD I/O instead of MS Duo
worse: 170g vs P800's 148g (without numpad) |
Iceduck
Joined: Mar 18, 2002
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Check out this site:
http://mobile.burn.com/news.jsp?Id=102
It has a 65k color display opposed to the 4096 color display on the P800. It looks a little better than the P800 allround, however it is scheduled for release in Q4 2003 so you shouldn't wait for it if you want a P800 now.
But it's really cool that it will use UIQ, with more UIQ devices out there we will get shitloads of software! |
Andy.
Joined: Apr 27, 2002
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Still going to get a P800
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marka2k
Joined: Sep 22, 2002
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From: USA
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it's from Motorola enough said; I am still going for the P800 when it's released in the USA |
mk5808775
Joined: Jan 19, 2003
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It looks great - especially being a QUAD band phone (GSM triband and UMTS/W-CDMA 2100) - but I'll get the P800 anyways.
Just think about the battery life with a 65k screen and all the gizmos you might not need. SD I/O is really sweet, though!!
I bet it's going to be a shitload more expensive then the P800 when it's released... |
mariolouis
Joined: Nov 17, 2002
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sdio is a lot better than ms duo. does it have bluetooth?
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sachiel
Joined: Nov 09, 2002
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Threegmobile.net comments that 65k color screen doesn't seem to make a huge difference with 4096 colors. But i need to see it to believe it. I like the design though, but won't it use keypads anymore?
Motorola's very aggressive right now in the cellular market. Any chance that the other Motorola models will be released in the Philippines? Phil. is the land of Nokia so market penetration is hard and i want people here to be more aware of other brands so that consumers would be more open minded. |
Iceduck
Joined: Mar 18, 2002
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Why would a 65k color display need a lot more power than a 4096? I don't think the number of simultaneous colors have nothing to do with battery usage. Correct me if I'm wrong, tho.
Anyway, the 4096 display is probably the only thing that could be improved on the P800 in my eyes. But a big 65k diplay would probably boost the price with €100. |
mk5808775
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On 2003-01-29 15:33, Iceduck wrote:
Why would a 65k color display need a lot more power than a 4096? I don't think the number of simultaneous colors have nothing to do with battery usage. Correct me if I'm wrong, tho.
Anyway, the 4096 display is probably the only thing that could be improved on the P800 in my eyes. But a big 65k diplay would probably boost the price with €100.
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Well, to display more colors at a certain resolution, you need more memory, thus more energy, I'd assume. Just take the iPaq or any other Pocket PC. They have huge 65k screens and a lot of RAM to display those colors, and guess how long the battery lasts?
Displaying colors is not a matter of the display, but of the graphics controller!
Check this out!
http://www.planetquake.com/rocketland/haqsau/vidmemcalc.shtml
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Iceduck
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Displaying colors is not a matter of the display, but of the graphics controller!
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As I indicated, I'm no expert in this field. But I do think some of the display problems on the P800 could be solved using diffusion to avoid bad gradients (e.g. on photos). With the CPU power of the P800 this must be possible. |
mk5808775
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Displaying colors is not a matter of the display, but of the graphics controller!
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As I indicated, I'm no expert in this field. But I do think some of the display problems on the P800 could be solved using diffusion to avoid bad gradients (e.g. on photos). With the CPU power of the P800 this must be possible.
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Sure, that could prolly work! Giving some of the RAM to the video controller for better color depth. Just like on the PPCs were you can adjust the memory for running applications and files. Is the video quality really that bad?! |
imtheone
Joined: Jan 21, 2003
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even if its features are better in all ways, its UGLY
no way am i gonna hold that around |
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Posted: 2003-01-29 13:04
