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gharknes1
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According to T3 news release the satio will need more than a flash to fix current problems and will need to be recalled.
Don't know how accurate this is but it certaintly puts a different slant on things if true
http://www.t3.com/news/sony-e[....]hanks-to-buggy-software?=42445 |
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miguel82
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So what they mean about more than firmware update? Is this true for all satios or just for the faulty ones? Do we all have to go to a service point? Now im worried if the newfirmware by itself dont solve the few problems of my satio  |
jmcomms
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That sounds somewhat unlikely. Of course, we'll know after the update arrives - but I really can't see what hardware problem there is.
In my experience, a number of people will pretend the phone is faulty (even damaging the phone) if they don't like it and want to get something else or a refund.
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daviep
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the article doesnt mention anything about a recall,just says it wil require more than a simple patch
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dipb
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I am also not very convinced by the report. I am having a feeling thaty there is some kind of negative publicity going on by a group. If you watch carefully, non of the service providers are projecting the phone by themselves, which happens normally. On the contrary, SE themselves is pushing the phone on the market and they are spending a lot to ush the phone.
The article is just a nice polished presentation of the previous news of CarphoneWarehouse withdrawing the phone due to buggy software.
These withdrawls are also pre-empted I feel.
I also agree with one my previous blogger, that I donot see much hardware problem other than battery consumption. This also I feel is corectable by firmware as SE did in the past with K800 and K850.
Lets wait and watch what SE fixes with the new frimware.
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daviep
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maybe people are reporting software problems because they are trying to install unsigned and non-compatible apps. because of the lack of genuine Satio software.
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daviep
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just watched the Satio advert being screened on tv again,s.e. seem to still pushing it very hard as dipb said so must be very confident that any problems will be resolved soon or the adverts would be pulled.
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On 2009-11-24 22:49:30, daviep wrote:
maybe people are reporting software problems because they are trying to install unsigned and non-compatible apps. because of the lack of genuine Satio software.
I dont think the intelligence of Joe Public is that high they would seek to install none-compatible apps on the phone. Besides, if the apps are made for a N97 or other similar handset a simple error message is displayed on the phones screen.
Basically my thinking is this. The Satio like many other phones was buggy when first released. Also quite likely is early stockists of the handset like CPW and P4U possibly purchased large amounts of faulty units. Software and/or hardware. That would explain why some people have very few if any problems, and others have large amounts of bugs, hangs or hardware failure. I got my Satio on 22/10/09, a week or two after release, from CPW. Its possible mine was of a fresh delivery of Satio phones (since the phones had sold out where i live until i got mine), whereas the original batches received by the retailers were the faulty ones.
I think SE can be very proud of the Satio. I love mine. Not quite as much as i did my N95 8gb from day one but it has all the functions i need and use. Ive stopped carrying 2 phones around with me now. So its doing something right for me !
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jmcomms
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There have been other handsets with problems, but I do wonder if part of the spreading of this story is down to more tech sites reporting it (sorry, re-quoting and rewriting the same story), Twitter spreading the news or simply a rival making sure to get the story into the mainstream press.
I was half expecting news of the Satio's withdrawal to make it onto the BBC News and Sky News as 'breaking news'. Many papers covered this, which seems unheard of. I guess the difference here was that Richard Dorman actually confirmed the withdrawal. Had he not, I doubt many papers would have covered it as it would have merely come down to the word of (then) Carphone Warehouse who may well have been out of stock or simply didn't make enough on the phone and wanted to push something else.
As it stands; the Satio is now highlighted as having issues and it's important for SE to try and convince people when it returns that all issues are solved. I wish them luck, but it's going to be an uphill battle.
(I too doubt that it has anything to do with unsigned apps!)
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vegetaleb
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This article is bulls**t
-T3 is a Apple bought magazine(but of course they don't say it loudly)
-Majority of bugs are S60v5 related
-No Hardware bugs so far,so as there are software bugs they can be repaired by Software updates
-My sole bug is the Theme Style, apart that it just need some improvements like louder ringtones,sync ringtones with the calls...
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kanjer
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i have to agree with the above, having had many SE phones in the past a lot of the issues we have here is SW related and hence the FW should sort it out. Remember how buggy the K850 was so bad that What Mobile gave it a 3 out of 5! but upped the rating once the improvements were made. My P990i was aweful to use initially until the FW upgrade making it a very useable handset same with P1i |
vegetaleb
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They meant that one FW upgrade will not be sufficiant but several FW updates which would be logical and this was and will always be the case for all the mobile phones ever!
Apple try to destroy the image of the Satio by saying it's buggy like if it was the only buggy phone in history 
Yes T3 is sponsored by Apple,I was reading T3 magazines for 1 year and OMG every single article,preview or review of even a coffee maker should be related to iphone or ipod 
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On 2009-11-25 11:48:55, vegetaleb wrote:
They meant that one FW upgrade will not be sufficiant but several FW updates which would be logical and this was and will always be the case for all the mobile phones ever!
Apple try to destroy the image of the Satio by saying it's buggy like if it was the only buggy phone in history
Yes T3 is sponsored by Apple,I was reading T3 magazines for 1 year and OMG every single article,preview or review of even a coffee maker should be related to iphone or ipod
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Sony Ericsson Satio sales suspended
Two stores pull handset due to buggy software
The stores have temporarily halted sales of the Satio until manufacturer Sony Ericsson offers fixes for issues that customers raised, which include random powering-down and slowness. (See our review for some user comments that have raised similar issues).
Apparently, a firmware upgrade won't fix the issue, so the handsets must be recalled.
I have been complaining here about  inability to write decent SW for about three years, seems to me do not take any notice of ESATO!
as for this nonsense "Apple try to destroy the image of the Satio by saying it's buggy l" IT IS NOTHING to do with Apple saying the Satio is Buggy,
Sony Ericsson are doing a great job of proving its buggy themselves!
I have a Nokia 5800XM that runs the Symbian S60V5 OS Flawlessly yet have to muck about with it and the result is two of the biggest retailers in the UK suspend selling the phone as it wont work! Same with the X1 the panel destroyed WinMo I tried one and it stank! and I fear the Android X10 will be equally badly crippled by them. The problem is cannot write software NOT that Apple make nasty comments!
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I know people at T3 and I would agree that many tech/gadgets mags like to mention Apple as much as possible - if only because having an iPod or iPhone on the cover seems to sell more issues (Apple fan boys presumably buy ANYTHING that features an Apple product or mention). However, I wouldn't say that any mag is 'bought' by Apple as they do bugger all advertising. They don't need to. Apple has no real hold over the press, as you could still write about them even if Apple never answered the phone to you (and with their last PR company, that was frequent).
Okay, so they could lavish every journalist with an iPhone, iPod, MacBook Pro, iMac 27-inch and Apple TV's etc - but I can assure you they don't. They give out products on fairly short loan periods, and while there are some lucky people who manage to hold on to things for longer (I still have an iPhone 3G for example that's over a year old!), I really don't think you can say anything about bribery!
Of course, conspiracy theorists can say that I would say that... 
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On 2009-11-25 12:48:25, jmcomms wrote:
I know people at T3 and I would agree that many tech/gadgets mags like to mention Apple as much as possible - if only because having an iPod or iPhone on the cover seems to sell more issues (Apple fan boys presumably buy ANYTHING that features an Apple product or mention). However, I wouldn't say that any mag is 'bought' by Apple as they do bugger all advertising. They don't need to. Apple has no real hold over the press, as you could still write about them even if Apple never answered the phone to you (and with their last PR company, that was frequent).
Okay, so they could lavish every journalist with an iPhone, iPod, MacBook Pro, iMac 27-inch and Apple TV's etc - but I can assure you they don't. They give out products on fairly short loan periods, and while there are some lucky people who manage to hold on to things for longer (I still have an iPhone 3G for example that's over a year old!), I really don't think you can say anything about bribery!
Of course, conspiracy theorists can say that I would say that...
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I am not sure T3 would sell many copies IF their customers thought T3 might not be "HIP" to what is (regrettably) almost certainly the best selling tech wanna have in the UK! Mags such as T3 and others have managed to deliver the message that iPhone is great even when it has glaring issues! sure it looks pretty and undoubtedly works better in some areas than almost anything have ever built but I still wont have one, still too many important details missing for me.
I have owned the ... T68i T610, P800, P900, P910, P990, W950, P1, W960 But SE have now totally lost the plot. |
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