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deswin93
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Posted: 2009-11-15 21:41
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Is it a huge difference between the satio camera 12mp n this 8mp??
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Posted: 2009-11-15 21:47
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On 2009-11-15 21:41:05, deswin93 wrote:
Is it a huge difference between the satio camera 12mp n this 8mp??


Yeah the Aino's camera is far from ideal, the 12mp is likley to be a lot better, maybe not so mcuh compared to a C905.
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Posted: 2009-11-15 22:01
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A xenon flash also makes a huge difference to imaging.
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Posted: 2009-11-15 22:09
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If Aino had a 12Mp camera, it would still need someone with decent skills to get the best out of it as with all cameras.
Check out what can be done with a 5Mp G900 and some real photography skills - here. No big toes anywhere in sight!
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Posted: 2009-11-16 19:27
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On 2009-11-15 21:47:39, 10123 wrote:

On 2009-11-15 21:41:05, deswin93 wrote:
Is it a huge difference between the satio camera 12mp n this 8mp??


Yeah the Aino's camera is far from ideal, the 12mp is likley to be a lot better, maybe not so mcuh compared to a C905.


I disagree. When you say the Aino's camera is 'far from ideal', I don't know what your definition of ideal is, but 8MP is pretty decent in this day and age for a phone. Of course it doesn't seem as great when compared with 12MP, but then if you think about it 12MP is pretty damn over the top. I would say my 5MP K850i is ideal. You could say that if you were talking about some old VGA camera. But at this moment in 2009, 8MP is totally ideal.

What would make me buy a Satio over the Anio (if picking due to camera) would be the fact that the Satio has a xenon flash. That, in my view is much more important.
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Posted: 2009-11-16 19:32
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I don't think you know what you're talking about. It's NOT about Megapixels. For example K800 v C902 (3.2mp v 5mp), K800i wins, why? because of a better camera hardware, higher focal length.

You are just one of those people who fell for the megapixel marketing.

PS. Phones aren't made to be best cameras, for this (surprise) buy a camera.
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Posted: 2009-11-16 20:33
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so which camera is better?? satio or aino?? of coz the satio rite
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Posted: 2009-11-16 21:12
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On 2009-11-15 22:01:29, volume100 wrote:
A xenon flash also makes a huge difference to imaging.


Only in low light situations. I prefer to take photos in good lighting, no flash needed. Why do you guys want to give your camphones such a hard time? It's like buying a Ferrari and taking it to an off-road track to see how good it is in the mud!
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Posted: 2009-11-16 21:34
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On 2009-11-16 21:12:30, carkitter wrote:

On 2009-11-15 22:01:29, volume100 wrote:
A xenon flash also makes a huge difference to imaging.


Only in low light situations. I prefer to take photos in good lighting, no flash needed. Why do you guys want to give your camphones such a hard time? It's like buying a Ferrari and taking it to an off-road track to see how good it is in the mud!





that's a terrible comparison, of course if the lighting conditions are great but for anything else the flash is needed, especially for camera phones with small light sensors, for photos of indoors and at night.
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Posted: 2009-11-16 21:39
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I would say the only bad point about Aino's camera is the lack of a xenon flash.
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Posted: 2009-11-17 00:16
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On 2009-11-16 21:12:30, carkitter wrote:

On 2009-11-15 22:01:29, volume100 wrote:
A xenon flash also makes a huge difference to imaging.


Only in low light situations. I prefer to take photos in good lighting, no flash needed. Why do you guys want to give your camphones such a hard time? It's like buying a Ferrari and taking it to an off-road track to see how good it is in the mud!




I really think it's a necessity in my case. I take moderate amount of pictures and about the same amount is during day and during night, so it's important to have a proper flash. Even lots of pictures that are taken indoors, during daylight, are taken with the flash (auto mode) and it makes a difference. Not to mention all the pictures from partys that would be impossible to make without a xenon.

Digital camera is the ONLY alternative to a xenon flash on a mobile phone for point and shoot pictures in low light conditions, but I find them unnecessary for my amateur and spontaneous imaging. I also hate to carry around more than I have to.
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Posted: 2009-11-17 19:53
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If the Anio had a 12mp cam the Satio will still have better graphics, processor and touchscreen capabilities
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Posted: 2009-11-17 21:35
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I really think it's a necessity in my case. I take moderate amount of pictures and about the same amount is during day and during night, so it's important to have a proper flash. Even lots of pictures that are taken indoors, during daylight, are taken with the flash (auto mode) and it makes a difference. Not to mention all the pictures from partys that would be impossible to make without a xenon.

Digital camera is the ONLY alternative to a xenon flash on a mobile phone for point and shoot pictures in low light conditions, but I find them unnecessary for my amateur and spontaneous imaging. I also hate to carry around more than I have to.



Here's an example showing that Xenon is not always better as compared to LED

Taken by compact digicam with Xenon



Taken with W902 with LED


Needless to say, the W902 bears better resemblance to the actual ambience because Xenon is usually associated with faster shutter speed thus letting less light in which takes its toll from a certain distance. The W902 photo has better dynamics as you can see certain movements clearly which better depicts or to some extent, exaggerate the situation. Xenon is not everything all of the time.
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Posted: 2009-11-17 21:43
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On 2009-11-17 21:35:57, mode wrote:


I really think it's a necessity in my case. I take moderate amount of pictures and about the same amount is during day and during night, so it's important to have a proper flash. Even lots of pictures that are taken indoors, during daylight, are taken with the flash (auto mode) and it makes a difference. Not to mention all the pictures from partys that would be impossible to make without a xenon.

Digital camera is the ONLY alternative to a xenon flash on a mobile phone for point and shoot pictures in low light conditions, but I find them unnecessary for my amateur and spontaneous imaging. I also hate to carry around more than I have to.



Here's an example showing that Xenon is not always better as compared to LED



I prefer the xenon one to be honest. Yes the second one is brighter, but is much worse compared. Just look at the woman moving, she is blurred however the girl in the first one is not. The lighting is also blurred in the LED one. It also has a tone of noise on it, and just looks generally bad.
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Posted: 2009-11-17 21:50
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Remember we're talking about light quality since this is related to flash and not the W902 cam module per se. The blur as my edit earlier suggests, is not always bad, especially when you can't even see the face of the woman from the back. If anything, it enhances the actual situation giving it a certain dynamic. It's a sports day and it's nice to see things 'move' instead of keeping still
I happen to know a lot of people with DSLR's who disable their Xenons indoors to get a closer feel to the actual atmosphere. They get blurry pics, but they also get what they want in return, the real deal.

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Of course, this is purely academic, I would settle for an Aino with Xenon if there was one and disable it when I feel there's no need for it. But frankly, I don't feel like I'm losing much right now, and of course, my current W995 can outperform the above W902 photo any day where cam quality is concerned
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