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Lightspeed_x
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Posted: 2009-09-05 08:09
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@Mano82 & Norobiik: Thanks for the information!, I really appreciate it. It seems all AF cams in current SE phones have the same timing... Honestly, i was expecting a bit better times, although, 2 seconds would be pretty good to me...

Has any W995 user had a C702 or a C510 before having this phone?

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Posted: 2009-09-05 12:45
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On 2009-09-05 08:09:19, Lightspeed_x wrote:
@Mano82 & Norobiik: Thanks for the information!, I really appreciate it. It seems all AF cams in current SE phones have the same timing... Honestly, i was expecting a bit better times, although, 2 seconds would be pretty good to me...

Has any W995 user had a C702 or a C510 before having this phone?



I can confirm Mano82's timing - 3.4 to 3.6 secs in a very dark hallway at night. The w995's led flash is also much stronger than the T700's. I need twilight landscape & led flash with the T700 to even see the doll. Pics later
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Posted: 2009-09-05 17:35
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T700 doll shot in a very dark hallway (ie. black pic with no flash on & nothing on twilight mode either )

3.2 megapix , flash on, all auto



The T700 is a very fast shooter (no autofocus for one) but in this dark environment it took 4-5 seconds to complete the cycle.

W995 shot, 5 megapix (i purposely step down in low light shots for anything > 3.2mpx) , flash on, all auto



Note how the stronger flash brings out the metal cat stattuetes & the painting behind it. Cycle was longer than I previously thought - 6-7 seconds.

My trusty k800i is still around so I"ll try another round of shots tomorrow, might as well go all the way with camera comparisons.
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Posted: 2009-09-05 18:03
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On 2009-09-04 20:27:48, mrjulius wrote:
@norobik
"kababayan ko"
i saw pic of sarah in your shots
are you in makati?



Not currently I work in Makati but don't live there, lots off opportunities for shots in my off time. Used to be cell cams were just toys now they're pretty good though still far from digicam quality.
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Posted: 2009-09-05 18:43
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On 2009-09-05 08:09:19, Lightspeed_x wrote:
@Mano82 & Norobiik: Thanks for the information!, I really appreciate it. It seems all AF cams in current SE phones have the same timing... Honestly, i was expecting a bit better times, although, 2 seconds would be pretty good to me...

Has any W995 user had a C702 or a C510 before having this phone?




Actually I've even made some comparison shots with C510 (perhaps i'll post them later) and I found out that C510's focusing and locking is painfully slow (definitely >3.5 secs) and that W995 was much faster which I again confirm that in a pitch black room takes 2.0 secs to focus and lock. I don't understand how you guys can get 3.3 secs when it seems like a breeze for mine
A full cycle does take around 5 secs (give and take 1 sec) which is a normal duration considering the 8mp of processing it has to go through
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Posted: 2009-09-06 03:05
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Thank you all for taking the time to do all these tests

@Mode, NoroBiik & : Maybe a firmware thing? (about the 2 vs 3.5 secs)... What do you think?

Comparison pics welcome!!!
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Posted: 2009-09-06 06:53
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Here they are, the comparison shots between C510 and W995. Frankly I don't think C510 deserves to be called a Cybershot for the reasons below


W995



C510



W995 definitely deserves to be called a Walkman
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@Mode: Wow, were those pics taken under the same lightning conditions?, did both flash fired?... if so, definitively is as you say... in fact, that being the case, the W995 is more of a Cybershot than the C510...

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Posted: 2009-09-06 20:19
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On 2009-09-06 03:05:35, Lightspeed_x wrote:
Thank you all for taking the time to do all these tests

@Mode, NoroBiik & : Maybe a firmware thing? (about the 2 vs 3.5 secs)... What do you think?

Comparison pics welcome!!!




Firmware I think, there was a jump when the T700 came out. Non AF pics didn't suck for the first time & there were other tweaks and improvements on the base os. I call it by that name because cell phone firmware complexity & sophistication now approaches that of the PC.

The multitasking of the T700 btw is incredible. You can be using it as a bluetooth modem for your laptop and even if a call or text comes in (and you have to answer or reply) the internet connection rarely breaks.
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Posted: 2009-09-07 00:42
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On 2009-09-04 15:58:17, jake20 wrote:
i dont get it.. people say the w995 cam stinks, but these shots look just as good as the c905


Almost, but not exactly. The daylight shots are difficult to compare so I'll show you what would be a real test for phone cams: evening shots and lowlight indoor shots. C905 is better in sharpness, colours and noise suppression, better compression (much smaller filesize but better detail, how on earth do they do that???) and rightly so I would say. And just to make it fair, no Xenon used because it gives C905 a much, much bigger advantage


@Lightspeed_x
Yes, the C510-W995 shots were taken under the same lighting conditions in full auto setting


Back to some comparison shots, W995 vs C905

TWILIGHT LANDSCAPE (everything else set to auto, timer used),

W995


C905



FULL AUTO (flash disabled, timer used)

W995


C905



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Posted: 2009-09-07 02:00
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That is one hell of a skyline

k800i dollshot pic, 3pmx all auto & xenon flash



You can see the xenon advantage mode was talking about, good as the LED flash of the W995 is it just can't compete (and this is on the venerable k800).
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Posted: 2009-09-07 02:59
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more W995 shots, buildings about 9am 8mpx all auto



Now a zoom shot (halfway through the zoom marker range, 8x?). Its pixelated but much better than what I used to get on an LG Viewty - the latter was a pixelated mess pretty useless for anything.

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Nice!, that zoom looks useable.... 8X @ VGA Resolution?.... Or does it reduce the resolution automatically when zooming?
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On 2009-09-07 06:35:53, Lightspeed_x wrote:
Nice!, that zoom looks useable.... 8X @ VGA Resolution?.... Or does it reduce the resolution automatically when zooming?
[ This Message was edited by: Lightspeed_x on 2009-09-07 05:37 ]



I think it reduces resolution automatically when zooming. zooming isn't restricted to VGA pic modes as in older SE phones. I could have been hitting near 16x in that last pic, not sure so tried another couple of shots at a cafe :

5mpx evening shot, incandescent lighting mode , no flash



same settings, and I was careful this time around ~8x



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Posted: 2009-09-08 03:07
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@mode
Almost, but not exactly. The daylight shots are difficult to compare so I'll show you what would be a real test for phone cams: evening shots and lowlight indoor shots. C905 is better in sharpness, colours and noise suppression, better compression (much smaller filesize but better detail, how on earth do they do that???) and rightly so I would say. And just to make it fair, no Xenon used because it gives C905 a much, much bigger advantage


Back to some comparison shots, W995 vs C905

TWILIGHT LANDSCAPE (everything else set to auto, timer used),

W995


C905



Awesome pics mode , try to take the pics with shutter speed led flash.
Was born prince and became king W995 and without nodoubt the best buy of the year w995.
Sosorry c905 but the winner is W995 C=Cybershot + W=Walkman (2in1) and with new generation sensor.
I w995

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